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What should Sunak do now?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 05-May-23 12:26:32

The voter is it seems tacking to the left of centre and yet there are calls in the Tory party for Sunak to go further right, which doesn’t seem to make a great deal of sense.

I always find it difficult to “read” Sunak so am unclear what he may do now.

Does anyone have an idea what he will do now?

Casdon Mon 15-May-23 10:25:52

Germanshepherdsmum

National Conservatism isn’t the Conservative Party Casdon.

Durr…

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 15-May-23 10:22:59

National Conservatism isn’t the Conservative Party Casdon.

ronib Mon 15-May-23 10:14:18

When hasn’t there been dissent in politics? That’s the name of the game?

Casdon Mon 15-May-23 10:10:39

ronib

From my reading, I don’t think the NatCons are critical of Rishi Sunak. The conference was planned well before he became prime minister, I imagine. Best wait and see.

Err..
www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/13/tory-anarchy-breaks-out-as-revolt-looms-on-brexit-laws
There’s plenty more dissent from the right on various issues.

ronib Mon 15-May-23 10:07:12

From my reading, I don’t think the NatCons are critical of Rishi Sunak. The conference was planned well before he became prime minister, I imagine. Best wait and see.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 15-May-23 09:56:57

I shall wait to hear what is said at the conference, and by whom.

Casdon Mon 15-May-23 09:56:44

If he did not they, sorry.

Casdon Mon 15-May-23 09:56:12

ronib

Grantanow how do you know that Sunak doesn’t support the aims of the NatCons?

Why exactly would they be so critical of everything he’s doing if they did, do you think?

ronib Mon 15-May-23 09:49:16

Grantanow how do you know that Sunak doesn’t support the aims of the NatCons?

westendgirl Mon 15-May-23 09:26:21

G rantanow, that would be a start.

Grantanow Mon 15-May-23 09:17:42

Sack Braverman. Sack any Minister who attends a National Conservatism meeting. Remove the Whip from Johnson and Truss.

MayBee70 Mon 08-May-23 12:30:28

Someone on the news said that ( not sure which channel). No point improving the phone system if the practice doesn’t have enough staff to deal with patients anyway. They said moral was at an all time low.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-May-23 10:10:33

So the panicking Tories have decided to have a go at the NHS to try and win back votes.

So are doling out over £200million to upgrade the phone systems in GP surgeries to try to alleviate the queues.
How on earth is the fact that the NHS is haemorrhaging (?sp) doctors going to solve the issue by putting in new phone systems?

I suppose you will be told that there are no slots quicker.

Grantanow Mon 08-May-23 09:57:17

He'll probably be reflecting on the causes of Tory losses: the lying Buffoon, Truss, Kwarteng and a host of Tory MPs mired in scandals of various kinds. Cleaning up his Party by sacking some of the worst examples would be a good start.

Casdon Sun 07-May-23 16:55:01

Allsorts

Sunak, just do what you’re doing.

I agree, that’s the guarantee of the Tories not being re-elected.

Allsorts Sun 07-May-23 16:53:34

Sunak, just do what you’re doing.

MadeInYorkshire Sun 07-May-23 13:53:51

BlueBelle

Retire and sit in his counting house counting out his and his wife’s money

Agree, and call a General Election - but he won't, he will be just hanging on a thread I hope when that happens ...

LizzieDrip Sun 07-May-23 13:30:29

What Sunak SHOULD do now is heed the clear will of the people, uphold the democratic process and call a general election. Of course, what he WILL do is just the opposite. He’ll ignore the voice of the people and carry on (undemocratically) withholding our right to vote until the very last minute. Call an election Sunak - let us, the people in a democracy, have our say.

nanna8 Sun 07-May-23 11:41:12

Maybe you should bring in compulsory voting like we have here? Guess you couldn’t ,though, because the perpetually offended would say it was against their civil rights !

Baggs Sun 07-May-23 11:41:01

I've seen both sides in the Times, maiz.

MaizieD Sun 07-May-23 11:35:49

Whitewavemark2

Baggs

The voter is it seems tacking to the left of centre and yet there are calls in the Tory party for Sunak to go further right, which doesn’t seem to make a great deal of sense

I keep reading comments in papers that the Conservative Party as it stands now is not conservative. That may be why there are calls for Sunak to shift right even if one doesn't agree with those comments.

I've no idea what he'll do now. Does he even know himself? Time will tell.

Weirdly I keep reading the exact opposite.

That the Tory party has gone so far right, it bears no resemblance to the party in the past decades

I suppose it depends on which papers you read. The Mail, the Telegraph and the Sun have some quite different ideas about the political spectrum from the Mirror, the Guardian or the i...

I see comments on twitter about Sunak being 'socialist' and not truly tory. grin

MayBee70 Sun 07-May-23 11:34:18

Freya5

Freya5

MayBee70

The strange thing about Sunak is that his politics are that of the far right but because he’s such a mild mannered sort of person the electorate tend to think of him as right of centre. They also tend to forget that he was happy to go along with everything that Johnson did until he realised that he was supporting a politician that was on his way out and then helped to bring about his downfall. Not imo out of decency but to save his own skin and further his own career.

Far right, how ridiculous.

Mussolini was Far Right. Not seen any of those traits in Sunak.

I regard Rwanda as a far right policy…

Baggs Sun 07-May-23 11:33:33

Weirdly I keep reading the exact opposite. That the Tory party has gone so far right, it bears no resemblance to the party in the past decades

Haha! Which kind of suggests it's stuck in its usual quagmire.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-May-23 11:31:33

Baggs

*The voter is it seems tacking to the left of centre and yet there are calls in the Tory party for Sunak to go further right, which doesn’t seem to make a great deal of sense*

I keep reading comments in papers that the Conservative Party as it stands now is not conservative. That may be why there are calls for Sunak to shift right even if one doesn't agree with those comments.

I've no idea what he'll do now. Does he even know himself? Time will tell.

Weirdly I keep reading the exact opposite.

That the Tory party has gone so far right, it bears no resemblance to the party in the past decades

Baggs Sun 07-May-23 11:25:23

The voter is it seems tacking to the left of centre and yet there are calls in the Tory party for Sunak to go further right, which doesn’t seem to make a great deal of sense

I keep reading comments in papers that the Conservative Party as it stands now is not conservative. That may be why there are calls for Sunak to shift right even if one doesn't agree with those comments.

I've no idea what he'll do now. Does he even know himself? Time will tell.