What should Sunak do now?

Whitewavemark2

But then there would be no flexibility - and I bet you would be surprised at who was unemployed.

I know - it’s not what I think myself!

But then there would be no flexibility - and I bet you would be surprised at who was unemployed.

Clue as to how their minds work. Number of people registered unemployed is approx 1.3 million. Number of job vacancies is approximately 1.1 million. All unemployed people should do one of the jobs available. Simples.

MaizieD - sadly true in East Kent.

Whitewavemark2

There are plenty of Europeans willing to do the job though

But people in predominantly agricultural areas, especially Lincolnshire, voted to get rid of them. In the belief that they were depressing wages and doing local people out of jobs...

What happened next? Food rotting in fields with no-one to pick them and it turned out that the locals didn't want to do the jobs...

I see that a business man deeply involved in money laundering has been named by the BBC after a judge ruled against his application for anonymity.

He has given hundreds of thousands of pounds to the Tory party. They have continued to accept the money even though they were aware of the case relating to money laundering.

So Tory’s ill gotten gains were as a result of the people of Azerbaijan being fleeced of millions.

There are plenty of Europeans willing to do the job though

It might be said there are not enough British people to pick the fruit and veg, we needed immigrants before Brexit or Covid because British people did not want to do it because of a number of reasons the poor wages, hours and it was not permanent but seasonal.
The problem is to get around all those and somehow I can't see a Dr. or highly educated person escaping Syria or Afghanistan wanting to do it either..

maddyone

vegansrock

Suella wants Brits to learn to pick fruit, drive HGVs and to make babies, presumably not all at the same time, to solve the need for immigrants.

Should British people not pick fruit, drive HGVs, or make babies? Not sure I understand the point here. There’s no reason why British people shouldn’t do any of these things, although as you’ve pointed out, not all at the same time!

The point being (knowingly) missed by Braverman is that as the farmers representatives, hauliers and retailers will tell you.

There is simply not enough people to fill the vacancies

We’ve always had migrants. We’re a country of migrants. Stonehenge was built by people from Turkey. Why is someone who is the daughter or grandchild of migrants telling us that we shouldn’t have migrant or migrant workers? And when they tried to get local people to pick crops in rural areas they couldn’t get anyone to do it.

vegansrock

Suella wants Brits to learn to pick fruit, drive HGVs and to make babies, presumably not all at the same time, to solve the need for immigrants.

Should British people not pick fruit, drive HGVs, or make babies? Not sure I understand the point here. There’s no reason why British people shouldn’t do any of these things, although as you’ve pointed out, not all at the same time!

SueDonim

Why doesn’t the NHS do more to retain the medical staff they already have instead of thinking up new schemes for training? Where are the people to train these apprentices to come from?

The NHS haemorrhages so many people because of poor conditions. If they sorted that, the staffing issues would diminish.

I threw the towel in 5 yrs ago after 40 yrs nursing and midwifing, we were expected to do more with less resources year on year. At the same time patients were expecting a higher level of service ( home births, pool etc).

Since then it has got much worse, the answer is more staff to spread the workload, competitive pay to make the industry more attractive and better working conditions. Particularly hours, at the end of a busy 12 hour shift, you are often not making the best decisions, truck drivers are not allowed do work 12 hours, why are midwives.

More cash has to be found from somewhere

Suella wants Brits to learn to pick fruit, drive HGVs and to make babies, presumably not all at the same time, to solve the need for immigrants.

Oh sorry, ‘my bad’ as the youth say!

SueDonim

Why doesn’t the NHS do more to retain the medical staff they already have instead of thinking up new schemes for training? Where are the people to train these apprentices to come from?

The NHS haemorrhages so many people because of poor conditions. If they sorted that, the staffing issues would diminish.

Ahem! That's a bit too sensible!

Why doesn’t the NHS do more to retain the medical staff they already have instead of thinking up new schemes for training? Where are the people to train these apprentices to come from?

The NHS haemorrhages so many people because of poor conditions. If they sorted that, the staffing issues would diminish.

Germanshepherdsmum

Is this being confused with the volunteer scheme discussed last week? I never trust the DM’s interpretation.

Not sure whom you're addressing GSM, but the volunteer scheme is different from the apprenticeship schem and has nothing to do with the remote consultations. They're all separate.

Is this being confused with the volunteer scheme discussed last week? I never trust the DM’s interpretation.

Whitewavemark2

So the panicking Tories have decided to have a go at the NHS to try and win back votes.

So are doling out over £200million to upgrade the phone systems in GP surgeries to try to alleviate the queues.
How on earth is the fact that the NHS is haemorrhaging (?sp) doctors going to solve the issue by putting in new phone systems?

I suppose you will be told that there are no slots quicker.

I read somewhere or other that the idea is that you ring your surgery's number, but get through to a call centre somewhere in the country, which is how it is if you try to get through to your bank.

It's been in the planning stages for some time. The idea is to stop the lengthy waits on the phone. A computer will direct you to a centre, which could be anywhere, you will be triaged and a GP appointment will be just one of the options.

ronib

You do realise that Cuba trains its medical workers using an apprenticeship scheme? It seems to work?

We already do this in the UK, it’s not new.
www.hee.nhs.uk/our-work/talent-care-widening-participation/apprenticeships/medical-doctor-degree-apprenticeship
www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/career-planning/study-and-training/nhs-apprenticeships

You do realise that Cuba trains its medical workers using an apprenticeship scheme? It seems to work?

The latest brainwave for solving the NHS crisis
Reported in Daily Mail

The drastic proposal to let school-leavers learn on the job is one plan to help fix the ailing health service's workforce crisis.

Tens of thousands of doctors and nurses will be able to enroll in the apprenticeship scheme to 'earn while they learn' in the coming years.

Officials believe up to one in 10 doctors and a third of all nurses could eventually be trained through this radical new approach to recruitment.

The plans are expected to be laid out in full in the long-awaited long-term workforce plan, which could come within weeks.

maddyone

Anniebach

Angela Rayner guarantees a tory win

I think this could be correct.
I can’t ‘read’ Sunak really either. I’m not really sure what he believes in. It doesn’t seem to be traditional Tory values since his government is a government of high taxation.

Well, he believes in Brexit for starters which is quite amusing because the ERG ( who have now morphed into this new group) are now trying to get rid of him.

Whitewavemark2

So the panicking Tories have decided to have a go at the NHS to try and win back votes.

So are doling out over £200million to upgrade the phone systems in GP surgeries to try to alleviate the queues.
How on earth is the fact that the NHS is haemorrhaging (?sp) doctors going to solve the issue by putting in new phone systems?

I suppose you will be told that there are no slots quicker.

I agree. How will new phones help? We need more medics, not more phones!

Anniebach

Angela Rayner guarantees a tory win

I think this could be correct.
I can’t ‘read’ Sunak really either. I’m not really sure what he believes in. It doesn’t seem to be traditional Tory values since his government is a government of high taxation.