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Voter ID

(113 Posts)
Witzend Fri 05-May-23 19:14:07

MaizieD

You know, not everyone reads their polling card.

Now address why young people couldn't use a travel card. Tell me what massive amounts of terrible cheating would have gone on if they had been able to.

In light of the fact, of course, that cases of proven voter fraud under our traditional system have been utterly negligible... single figures.

Funny how we all managed to be perfectly orderly and law abiding without ID...

On a MN thread, at least one poster who has actually been a polling station official, has said that they’ve seen quite a bit of would-be fraud - people trying to vote for other family members, etc.

Personally I think it’s high time we all had ID cards.

Witzend Fri 05-May-23 19:10:00

On the BBC website a 32 year old bloke is complaining that he couldn’t vote, because he’d forgotten to take his passport with him.

I don’t suppose I’m the only one who can’t summon any sympathy. There’s been enough publicity about needing ID, FGS.

Greta Fri 05-May-23 18:59:11

I agree, Blossoming, it is a worry. It's actually embarrassing for our country that so many of us can't be bothered to vote.

Ilovecheese Fri 05-May-23 18:19:57

The reason that the Government introduced voter ID is precisely because they knew that a good number of people wouldn't have it, and they were making the assumption that the people without ID would be less likely to vote Tory.
It was no oversight, it was deliberate.

Blossoming Fri 05-May-23 18:14:54

The low turnout is more of a worry to me. Why do people just not bother to vote?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 17:58:45

There is no excuse.

MaizieD Fri 05-May-23 17:57:02

You know, not everyone reads their polling card.

Now address why young people couldn't use a travel card. Tell me what massive amounts of terrible cheating would have gone on if they had been able to.

In light of the fact, of course, that cases of proven voter fraud under our traditional system have been utterly negligible... single figures.

Funny how we all managed to be perfectly orderly and law abiding without ID...

GrannyGravy13 Fri 05-May-23 17:46:48

Germanshepherdsmum

I suspect a great many people don’t watch or listen to the news or read newspapers. Any publicity material received through the post is just binned, unread. Then they moan about not being told they need ID. It would be interesting to know the demographic involved.

It was clearly pointed out on the polling cards, which arrived in plenty of time to apply for an ID Certificate if needed.

Redhead56 Fri 05-May-23 17:40:26

Just listening to the news about people unable to vote because they had no ID. The public were warned well in advance they needed to apply for it. If they left it too late and they didn't get it on time it's their own fault.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 13:43:28

I suspect a great many people don’t watch or listen to the news or read newspapers. Any publicity material received through the post is just binned, unread. Then they moan about not being told they need ID. It would be interesting to know the demographic involved.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 05-May-23 13:43:20

It was estimated that over 2million people needed to apply for an ID of some sort. Only approx. 8% did so.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 05-May-23 13:42:27

What is difficult for those of us interested in politics is understanding that the vast majority of folk haven’t got the remotest interest in politics, but they do vote, largely it must be admitted by . These are the folk who will almost certainly suffer the biggest level of disenfranchisement as they will not be aware if the need for ID etc.

Foxygloves Fri 05-May-23 13:33:35

Whether or not this was a good idea, I am puzzled at people who still failed to present any and were surprised at being turned away.
The publicity campaign went on for months.
Most younger people have some sort of ID, student card, or driving licence for instance.
We (I should have thought) additionally mostly have bus passes and possibly senior railcards .
You could apply for alternative ID if you don’t have any of these.
So why the fuss?
If you try to travel on a bus without the appropriate card, you have to pay your fare.
What is the problem?