The police has apologised over the arrest of the republican group

I didn't.

But can you not understand that to many young people unable to keep head above water, and very concerned about other issues, find it obscene? This constant 'better a Monarch than a President is just silly

You cannot speak for young people in the UK any more than I can.

Fleurpepper

Yes, I can totally understand why you, and many in our generation, would feel it was worth every penny.

But can you not understand that to many young people unable to keep head above water, and very concerned about other issues, find it obscene? This constant 'better a Monarch than a President is just silly.

You'd think I didn't know any young people

I do have quite a few ^young friends^too. Well, actually, they are my DC's friends or the DC of my friends. Or my neighbours.

I can only post my opinion, not theirs.

For those people, and they are a majority among young people, the combined cost, when known, combined with heavy handed anti Protest Police behaviour- will only serve to confirm and increase the gap between our generation and theirs.

It is quite possible to feel differently about some things, even disapprove, and at the same time, try to understand why some feel differently.

Yes Callistemon21, but the President would have been elected by the people (at great expense) and we would be choosing to pay for his/her/ their funeral.
Well the republicans would be choosing to elect him/her/it and choosing to pay for his/her/its funeral.
It’s all about choice, don’t you know. And it’s only right if it’s republican choice

Yes, I can totally understand why you, and many in our generation, would feel it was worth every penny.

But can you not understand that to many young people unable to keep head above water, and very concerned about other issues, find it obscene? This constant 'better a Monarch than a President is just silly.

😂😂😂
I was wondering how long it would take.

£161 million for 70 years service - quite reasonable I think.

Now, a President's funeral might cost £20 million for 4 years' service - can someone do the maths please?

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161 million pounds for the late Queen's Funeral- and we don't yet know the cost of the Coronation, probably more.

I can totally understand how young people who feel that the Monarchy has little to do with them- and are suffering due to the cost of living crisis, and facing environmental disaster, and closer to home, our rivers and seas deliberately filled with sewerage- wanted to protest and shout 'not my King' or 'not in my name'.

Galaxy I remember that. Or wasn’t there any violence in protests against JKR?

Well, had she been in Australia, Fleurpepper ...... rubber bullets before arrest
Hundreds arrested - the bloody idiots.

Fleurpepper

Oh my goodness. Of course things are different in Australia!

She was arrested in London, just because she stood near where some protesters were!

Here she is telling what happened

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdrDYpd1rtQ

Oh, ok, I misunderstood.

This country is on a very slippery slope.

We need a reset.

If the Tories win another election the slippery path will lead us to the same place as Turkey if Erdogan is re-elected.

Oh my goodness. Of course things are different in Australia!

She was arrested in London, just because she stood near where some protesters were!

Here she is telling what happened

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdrDYpd1rtQ

You listen to the young woman from Australia who happened to stand quite near to protesters and was arrested and kept overnight, despite quietly explaining her situation

Fleurpepper what has been happening in Australia is totally different to anything that has gone on here.

Galaxy

Well there was that time all those scary dangerous women protested against violence against women during covid and were wrestled to the ground by the police, was it that kind of thing?

This one, Galaxy

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-65577670
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-61556569

But I expect, in their innocence, they didn't realise there were people in the vehicles 🤔

You listen to the young woman from Australia who happened to stand quite near to protesters and was arrested and kept overnight, despite quietly explaining her situation.

And the testimony of that group of people, who work in close relation with the Met, carried their logo and a Qcode to their links with the Met, arrested for no reason and kept overnight- and you know that this is not right, at all

fb.watch/kAGR7_2FFY/

Well there was that time all those scary dangerous women protested against violence against women during covid and were wrestled to the ground by the police, was it that kind of thing?

Looking at some protests recently which have become violent,

Can you give us some examples of those, Callistemon? Might jog my elderly memory a bit, as I can't recall any recent violent protests.

It's a fine line between stopping supposedly peaceful protests disrupting the lives of ordinary people going about their business, whether that be enjoying the ceremonies and traditions this country still does well, trying to get to hospitals to work or for treatment, just getting to anywhere on time, and shooting people with rubber bullets, using water cannon etc.

Looking at some protests recently which have become violent, putting police and public in danger, police chiefs have difficult judgements to make about the intentions of protestors and what action to take to prevent this.

No-one is suggesting they should be using firearms, rubber bullets, water cannon as is usual in other countries, including many of our neighbours.

They probably got it right on this occasion.

Katie59

You would not like the French style of policing, very heavy handed, as we saw at the football cup final a while ago. The French are much more aggressive in their demonstrations which is met with even more violence by the police, paramilitary police in many countries use tear gas and fire hoses and are best avoided.

Quite right Katie59. We would not like the French police handling at all.
We had ‘prevention is better’.
Most of the protesters (even those promoting beheading) were still allowed to protest.
Would it be better though to wait till things kick off and then bring in the heavy artillery and risk injuring innocent bystanders including children and foreign visitors?
Or was that an underlying aim by republicans to deter visitors from abroad coming to see the royal residences and the pomp and ceremony of the monarchy?

I don't know or care where you live fp.

Just keep talking sense please. 👍🏼

I thought you lived in Switzerland fp?

Exactly Katie. Which is why it is sad to see that the right to protest is beingt taken away and replaced with more and more heavy handedness- not the British way at all.

You would not like the French style of policing, very heavy handed, as we saw at the football cup final a while ago. The French are much more aggressive in their demonstrations which is met with even more violence by the police, paramilitary police in many countries use tear gas and fire hoses and are best avoided.

Callistemon21

^The French and the Brits have always protested very differently- you know, holding placards and shouting things like 'Not my King^'

Yes, it would be rather pointless for the French to shout that now.
Unfortunately, it took a lot of prevaricating and an Emperor or two to reach this stage.

🤣🤣🤣 Well reminded!