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The police has apologised over the arrest of the republican group

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-May-23 05:13:58

The Met has sent a letter of “regret” over the arrest of over 60+ people on Saturday.

As I said in another thread.

The police acted like idiots.

However, I am more interested in what prompted the police action, as nothing in the run up to the coronation where, both parties were actively cooperating, suggested that this would happen.

As I said - Braverman’s hand is all over this.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 16:24:15

Read the Act HPQ. It’s not what you think (or should I say, it’s not what some would like you to think). It’s better to be informed by the source than by biased commentary.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:19:42

The cost of those placards would be incredibly minute in comparison.

HousePlantQueen Tue 09-May-23 16:18:52

I haven't read this entire thread, but speed read it so to speak, and I am horrified by the number of people on this forum who are like nodding donkeys to this appalling last minute legislation, courtesy of our ghastly Home Secretary. Are you not frightened about just where this may lead? What about when you attend one of your nice middle class protests about asylum seekers being housed in your village? Will you be happy when the Police turn up, take your home made placards, your whistles, your thermos of scalding tea which could be used as a weapon? Or does your support of this atrocious anti-democratic act only apply when it is 'riff raff'? Riff raff like the several doctors who were interviewed as they were being led away?

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 16:18:35

Katie, only just over 30% of young people are in favour ofMonarchy. So by the time of the next Coronation, what % will it be?

I can fully understand that young people feel that this huge display of pomp at such huge cost, was a slap in the face of all those struggling with the cost of living, à la 'let them eat Cakism'.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 16:05:00

It was Grany who spoke of the money pouring in.

Katie59 Tue 09-May-23 16:02:28

I was speaking to a young woman about an hour ago, just a chance meeting chatting to a friend. Friend asked me if I enjoyed the Coronation, (it was a loaded question) “yes I enjoyed it very much”.

Other young woman had the opposite view, so I asked “ if you could would you have disrupted the coronation”, answer Yes.

Aveline Tue 09-May-23 16:00:17

I don't know. It felt sinister to me just looking at those vacuum packs of placards. Not the work of keen amateurs.

Mollygo Tue 09-May-23 15:51:32

Aveline

Who ordered, produced and paid for all those placards? It was organised and planned. Who would be glad to see things go wrong in such a major event in the UK? So many questions.

Well for a start, it was probably funded in part by GN republicans, don’t you think? And someone, I forget who, mentioned money pouring into republican coffers after the arrests. So will there be thanks, or 3 cheers for the police who inadvertently boosted republican funds

Aveline Tue 09-May-23 15:30:43

Who ordered, produced and paid for all those placards? It was organised and planned. Who would be glad to see things go wrong in such a major event in the UK? So many questions.

Mollygo Tue 09-May-23 15:23:27

Well, for example, if I’m there, with members of my group, who managed to resist arrest, exercising our right and peacefully protesting (in very loud voices but no placards) that a republic would be wrong, I wonder what our chances of remaining unharmed by an accidental placard would be.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 09-May-23 15:09:58

Fleurpepper

AGains BSM, if the best of British culture, which includes the right to protest, no longer matters, then it is truly a sad day.

What part of there were hundreds of protesters protesting complete with banners and shouting slogans throughout the Coronation Ceremony and ceremonial parade, do you either choose to dismiss or in fact did not see?

The right to protest is still on the statute books of the UK

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 15:07:33

You’re being silly now. I’m out.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 15:05:46

AGains BSM, if the best of British culture, which includes the right to protest, no longer matters, then it is truly a sad day.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 15:04:02

Germanshepherdsmum

Wait until someone’s been seriously hurt or killed eh nexus.

Well, of course, the potential is always there. So we go all North Korea on British culture, just in case ... really.

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 15:02:59

No, not at all GSM, no confusion on my part.

The Met apologised for wrongly arresting 60+ people, not for nothing.

British Culture and tradition are both hugely important, Coronation or not. A Judge will judge on actions and not on 'suspicions'- I thought have thought you more than anyone else would know that.

I have been to enough marches, demonstrations and festivals to know that the British police have been champions at dealing with protestors with humour, defusing... in a non-aggressive and wonderful way.

Braverman's hand was all over this suddent change of behaviour and tactics. As said above- making many in the police force very uncomfortable- especially after the recent criticism of a few twisted and corrupt minds within.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 15:01:17

If, God forbid, anyone is hurt we can expect the blame to be laid on the police.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 14:58:40

Wait until someone’s been seriously hurt or killed eh nexus.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 14:57:42

Worrying, Aveline. I do wish fp would drop this stuff about the British way of life and British culture (which to me means village fetes, pubs and chippies) and confine herself to the only thing that is relevant - the law. I practised law - not culture.

nexus63 Tue 09-May-23 14:55:45

we will have another coronation in the next 20 years as the king is 74, we will go through the same thing again, people have the right to peaceful protest, but arresting before hand is not right.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 09-May-23 14:53:15

fp Kindly tell me which part of the Public Order Act 2023 prevents peaceful protest.
You don’t understand the difference between culture and law? Try telling a judge that something is contrary to your cultural rights (whatever you think they are) rather than your legal rights, stemming from and enshrined in the law. Or maybe you are confusing common law and statute law?

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 14:53:03

I have.

Aveline Tue 09-May-23 14:52:32

Just think about it Fleurpepper

Fleurpepper Tue 09-May-23 14:51:03

what intelligence received- this has been debunked 100%.

The right to protest is enshrined in the British way of life, culture and policing. You know that, I am sure. How did confiscating placards saying 'Not my King' keep anyone safe?

fancythat Tue 09-May-23 14:49:56

Germanshepherdsmum

I have always suspected that a good many protesters are claiming benefits Forsythia. Working people have limited paid annual leave - certainly not enough to permit them to take part in some of the long running disruptive protests - and the protests don’t all take place in school/university holidays.

From what I have seen and read the police did not act indiscriminately. I have heard the excuse for some of the protesters carrying rape alarms. Yeah, right.

Perhaps you should read some legal websites fancythat. There are plenty available. I can also post a link to the new Public Order Act if you wish to read it, though it is totally irrelevant to arrests made at the time of the Coronation.

I will read some, so long as they are not too heavy.
Which ones would you suggest?

I will take a look at the new Public Order Act sometime. I presume it is easy to find.

Anniebach Tue 09-May-23 14:49:51

Were there only six arrests of republicans ? Who were the rest?