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Open warfare in the Tory party

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-May-23 14:38:06

I’ve lost count how many factions there are currently in the Tory party, but every time I read or listen to the radio etc, there is another Tory belonging to another faction criticising either another faction or the prime minister.

They are taking huge chunks out of each other, it is fascinating to listen to.

One wonders which paper will support which faction.

Riverwalk Mon 15-May-23 14:50:15

I'm wondering, is Braverman on manoeuvres and wanting to be sacked?

As home secretary she occupies one of the Great Offices of State and yet she's openly questioning her own government's policy on immigration - like it's nothing to do with her!

She's fretting about immigration but her party has been in power for 13 years and she is the home secretary?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-May-23 14:52:46

Riverwalk

I'm wondering, is Braverman on manoeuvres and wanting to be sacked?

As home secretary she occupies one of the Great Offices of State and yet she's openly questioning her own government's policy on immigration - like it's nothing to do with her!

She's fretting about immigration but her party has been in power for 13 years and she is the home secretary?

That’s faction no 1. Characterised by the far right NAT CONS. Which originated in the USA. Trumpian to the end. Yes she is definitely making a play for leadership.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-May-23 16:42:38

The NAT CONs are all trying to out-extreme each other at the conference. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so worrying.

Grantanow Mon 15-May-23 17:24:56

Sunak should sack her before she does more damage.

growstuff Mon 15-May-23 17:29:39

It appears that Cambridge-educated Miriam Cates (Conservative MP and speaker at the Nat Con conference) thinks that higher education is a waste of time and women should stay at home producing babies. You couldn't make it up! hmm

Casdon Mon 15-May-23 17:30:26

I don’t get why she thinks, having been eliminated in the second ballot last time, that she has any chance at all if there were another Tory leadership election. She’s not even the darling of the right, Boris Johnson is.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-May-23 17:31:16

growstuff

It appears that Cambridge-educated Miriam Cates (Conservative MP and speaker at the Nat Con conference) thinks that higher education is a waste of time and women should stay at home producing babies. You couldn't make it up! hmm

She also quoted the Nazi conspiracy anti-Semitic theory about “cultural Marxism”

Fleurpepper Mon 15-May-23 17:32:50

growstuff

It appears that Cambridge-educated Miriam Cates (Conservative MP and speaker at the Nat Con conference) thinks that higher education is a waste of time and women should stay at home producing babies. You couldn't make it up! hmm

I was sort of told this when I decided to go to Uni, as a mother of two. But that was in the 70s! Blimey.

growstuff Mon 15-May-23 18:02:08

Fleurpepper

growstuff

It appears that Cambridge-educated Miriam Cates (Conservative MP and speaker at the Nat Con conference) thinks that higher education is a waste of time and women should stay at home producing babies. You couldn't make it up! hmm

I was sort of told this when I decided to go to Uni, as a mother of two. But that was in the 70s! Blimey.

It's curious that it was OK for her to go to Cambridge and have a career. Presumably she's a member of some superior clan.

Jackiest Mon 15-May-23 18:36:28

growstuff

It appears that Cambridge-educated Miriam Cates (Conservative MP and speaker at the Nat Con conference) thinks that higher education is a waste of time and women should stay at home producing babies. You couldn't make it up! hmm

Maybe she should have stayed at home and NOT produced babies just in case her stupidity can be inherited.

Katie59 Mon 15-May-23 19:00:44

Braverman on the news tonight, bemoaning the number of immigrants we are employing to do our essential work. I wish her the best of luck trying to impose a solution

Whitewavemark2 Mon 15-May-23 19:09:22

Another NAT CON attendee

Tory MP Danny Kruger tells NatCon that Western civilisation is threatened by a "new religion", a mix of "Marxism, narcissism and paganism", conforming to the "dystopian fantasy of John Lennon"

Blimey

growstuff Mon 15-May-23 19:17:31

Whitewavemark2

Another NAT CON attendee

Tory MP Danny Kruger tells NatCon that Western civilisation is threatened by a "new religion", a mix of "Marxism, narcissism and paganism", conforming to the "dystopian fantasy of John Lennon"

Blimey

OMG! How terrible! All that stuff about giving peace a chance love being all you need, I suppose. hmm

growstuff Mon 15-May-23 19:17:54

Jackiest

growstuff

It appears that Cambridge-educated Miriam Cates (Conservative MP and speaker at the Nat Con conference) thinks that higher education is a waste of time and women should stay at home producing babies. You couldn't make it up! hmm

Maybe she should have stayed at home and NOT produced babies just in case her stupidity can be inherited.

grin

growstuff Mon 15-May-23 19:19:07

Katie59

Braverman on the news tonight, bemoaning the number of immigrants we are employing to do our essential work. I wish her the best of luck trying to impose a solution

Maybe she could do a job swap and start cleaning bums or picking potatoes!

Anniel Mon 15-May-23 20:10:38

WWM2, I am listening to Iain Dale on LBC and the National Conservatism group is being discussed on Cross Question. If you go to podcasts and look for Iain Dale Cross Question should come up. Tim Stanley DT is on tonights panel together with other political people. Can I suggest you listen to it, so we can other peoples understanding of it.

Wyllow3 Mon 15-May-23 20:53:15

"In a far away fairer universe....."