Strictly Cheese Sandwiches

So you agree that some people in the UK go hungry and are malnourished?

Emotive exaggeration is unhelpful.

I expect we have all seen pictures of people who are (or were) actually starving. You don't see that in the UK or, for that matter, anywhere else nowadays except war zones.

Agreed, gs. But that isn't starving.

I thought "you haven't got a clue women" when I seen that quote from her , she will be suggesting bread and dripping next , unfortunately you have got to afford to cook meat before you can have the dripping!! She is a typical person who hasn't had to think about anyone but herself for her entire life.

Baggs

Nusgranny

Baggs

Just watched the clip of that comment as I hadn't come across this until now. The clip includes a comment from another person that there are starving babies in the UK because their parents can't afford formula milk.

Starving? I do not believe this.

That aside, it is rather a ridiculous comment AW made, but I also think it was a ridiculous example. The chairperson said something about "all the ingredients of a cheese sandwich" which suggests to me that it wasn't just a plain cheese sandwich that was being talked about.

I can assure you there are people starving. At my voluntary work today I had a woman phone who had 2 small kids. Her pre-paid meter had run out and she had no money to top it up. She also had no food in the cupboard or nappies for her baby. All through no fault of her own. She was so grateful for the small amount of help we could give that she cried. So did I when she left.

I do not think this tells the whole story. People in desperate straits do get 'state' help as well as the kind of help you were able to give. I do not believe that people starve in the UK.

If they do, why isn't it in the news instead of us being told almost daily that 2/3 of adults in the UK are overwieght or obese?

Maybe they don't go for weeks without food, but I believe there are people who skip meals when they're hungry. I also believe that there are people who can't afford nutritionally balanced food, so they fill up on pasta, bread or potatoes

halfpint1

My Dad came home from his shift , had a cup of tea , and then
cycled off to his allotement, we hardly saw him. My Mum came home and started preparing the meal from scratch, we
never went hungry. What they didn't do was sit and watch
t.v. or have Smartphones or drink alcohol .

I don't suppose smartphones had been invented, so that's not really a surprise.

Who says people with hardly any money watch TV or drink alcohol? Do you make a habit of peering into people's windows to see what they're doing?

Nusgranny

Baggs

Just watched the clip of that comment as I hadn't come across this until now. The clip includes a comment from another person that there are starving babies in the UK because their parents can't afford formula milk.

Starving? I do not believe this.

That aside, it is rather a ridiculous comment AW made, but I also think it was a ridiculous example. The chairperson said something about "all the ingredients of a cheese sandwich" which suggests to me that it wasn't just a plain cheese sandwich that was being talked about.

I can assure you there are people starving. At my voluntary work today I had a woman phone who had 2 small kids. Her pre-paid meter had run out and she had no money to top it up. She also had no food in the cupboard or nappies for her baby. All through no fault of her own. She was so grateful for the small amount of help we could give that she cried. So did I when she left.

I do not think this tells the whole story. People in desperate straits do get 'state' help as well as the kind of help you were able to give. I do not believe that people starve in the UK.

If they do, why isn't it in the news instead of us being told almost daily that 2/3 of adults in the UK are overwieght or obese?

Baggs

Just watched the clip of that comment as I hadn't come across this until now. The clip includes a comment from another person that there are starving babies in the UK because their parents can't afford formula milk.

Starving? I do not believe this.

That aside, it is rather a ridiculous comment AW made, but I also think it was a ridiculous example. The chairperson said something about "all the ingredients of a cheese sandwich" which suggests to me that it wasn't just a plain cheese sandwich that was being talked about.

I can assure you there are people starving. At my voluntary work today I had a woman phone who had 2 small kids. Her pre-paid meter had run out and she had no money to top it up. She also had no food in the cupboard or nappies for her baby. All through no fault of her own. She was so grateful for the small amount of help we could give that she cried. So did I when she left.

Just watched the clip of that comment as I hadn't come across this until now. The clip includes a comment from another person that there are starving babies in the UK because their parents can't afford formula milk.

Starving? I do not believe this.

That aside, it is rather a ridiculous comment AW made, but I also think it was a ridiculous example. The chairperson said something about "all the ingredients of a cheese sandwich" which suggests to me that it wasn't just a plain cheese sandwich that was being talked about.

My Dad came home from his shift , had a cup of tea , and then
cycled off to his allotement, we hardly saw him. My Mum came home and started preparing the meal from scratch, we
never went hungry. What they didn't do was sit and watch
t.v. or have Smartphones or drink alcohol .

LovelyLady

If we can’t afford something we don’t have it. We do need nourishment to survive tho’
Cheese is expensive but there are alternatives.
What I really don’t get!
If we can’t afford to live in London, then we move somewhere we can afford where housing and living is cheaper. I’d love to live in London or Edinburgh but had to move to another part of the country. Only because it was cheaper.
I think the government will stop paying housing benefits in expensive areas encouraging folk to live in affordable areas that they can live according to their means.

Great, but is there any work available in the cheaper areas?

Widdicombe is a dried up old spinster, never been married or had kids, grew up in some privilege and her whole life was her career. Now that it’s over she has realised how empty her life really is and it’s made her bitter. Just my opinion, for what it’s worth.

My brother and myself frequently ate sauce sandwiches. Red for him, brown for me, or even salad cream. No chance of cheese or ham. This was in the late sixties. My father was the only one working. His weekly wage was £22.00.

If we can’t afford something we don’t have it. We do need nourishment to survive tho’
Cheese is expensive but there are alternatives.
What I really don’t get!
If we can’t afford to live in London, then we move somewhere we can afford where housing and living is cheaper. I’d love to live in London or Edinburgh but had to move to another part of the country. Only because it was cheaper.
I think the government will stop paying housing benefits in expensive areas encouraging folk to live in affordable areas that they can live according to their means.

Therefore, I understand Ann Widdecombes remark, that if you can’t afford something, you don’t have it.

I'm sure that we can all understand that, but in this day and age, when the UK is so much richer, there just shouldn't be so many people in poverty. The distribution of the nation's money among its citizens is out of balance and desperately unequal.

Anyway, it was Widdicome who was blithely spouting all those lies about food being cheaper after Brexit.. There is some irony in her pronouncement...

montymops

Expectations are so high now. As others have said, being born in the early 40’s in London, during an air raid and growing up in the 40’s and 50’s , life was very different. No television, no mobile phones, hardly any toys, one Ideal boiler in the kitchen to heat the water, an open fire in the sitting room sometimes, ice on the inside of the bedroom windows in winter, no central heating of course, no sweets, lollies, ice cream etc. Meals were odd, revolting sheep’s stomach boiled , yuk- loads of spuds, swede which I hated, most foodstuffs were rationed. And yet, I remember, as that was life, being quite happy . We made our own games with friends in the road - that was fun. Therefore, I understand Ann Widdecombes remark, that if you can’t afford something, you don’t have it.

But a cheese sandwich? It's hardly beluga caviar, is it?

nanna8

‘Suppurating abscess’ That’s a bit harsh, isn’t it? I don’t know anything about the woman but I wouldn’t say that about anyone, it is just rude.

A truly disgusting thing to say about anyone.

As someone else has said this is not a competition.

Expectations are so high now. As others have said, being born in the early 40’s in London, during an air raid and growing up in the 40’s and 50’s , life was very different. No television, no mobile phones, hardly any toys, one Ideal boiler in the kitchen to heat the water, an open fire in the sitting room sometimes, ice on the inside of the bedroom windows in winter, no central heating of course, no sweets, lollies, ice cream etc. Meals were odd, revolting sheep’s stomach boiled , yuk- loads of spuds, swede which I hated, most foodstuffs were rationed. And yet, I remember, as that was life, being quite happy . We made our own games with friends in the road - that was fun. Therefore, I understand Ann Widdecombes remark, that if you can’t afford something, you don’t have it.

WW2 I was thinking the same. Just stopped myself from joining in.
Reminds me of the Monty Python Sketch “You were lucky, we lived in cardboard box on’t motorway.

Anyone ever had condensed milk sandwiches? Absolutely delish, and fed to me as a treat in the staff kitchen when my mother visited some rather posh people. Days, eh?

Pammie1

biglouis

When we were kids (late 1940s/1950s) we ate a lot of "scouse" - a traditional Liverpool dish which resembles Irish stew in that the basics are potatoes, beef and onion boiled up together. However you can put almost anything into a pan of scouse and keep reheating it. I always used to prefer it next day when it had gone thick and you ate it with a spoon.

Born and bred in Liverpool. We used to get a lamb bone from the butchers, to make ‘lob’ or meatless scouse. The bone provided stock and the stew itself was mainly potatoes with carrots onion and swede. There was always barley in it too, to stretch it out and thicken it. We used to have it next day after it had thickened, on toasted bread.

Not for the first time I made something very similar the other day - the very scanty remains of a half leg of lamb, strip the shreds of meat off, ditch the fat, simmer the bone, add onion, pearl barley, carrots, potatoes, stock cube - meat to heat through plus peas at the end.
Not because we’re skint - I just hate wasting food.
In any case, it’s very tasty and we like it!

Traditional Italian peasant food is polenta (maize) which is quite a hazard to cook as it boils and erupts and needs constant stirring. Instant polenta is also available and can be cooked without danger to life. Can be soft or hard polenta, made with sauces and baked, fried or grilled . Once favoured by celebrity chefs. Used to be cheap. More interesting than cheese sandwiches too.

Thank you Pammie - of course.

growstuff

You lot don't know how lucky you are! I had to put up with margarine sandwiches.

I was given sugar butties and as a child I loved them. Couldn’t think of anything worse now.