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Braverman attempts a cover up.

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luluaugust Mon 22-May-23 09:27:41

I thought she asked because she has protection people as a Minister and was trying to work out how to take them all with her to an awareness course. In the end she paid a fine and took the points which will affect her insurance.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 22-May-23 09:22:52

Primrose53

Ailidh

Not a fan of SB.

Not a fan of speeding.

Not hugely moved that she wanted to do the course anonymously - it's not as though she tried to duck out of the penalty.

Not a fan of the constant trial by media that dominates our culture.

All she did was ask a question!

It’s also a trial by the opposition who will do everything in their power to get rid of people like Priti Patel and Suella Bravermann who are trying to carry out their jobs and sort out the boat people problem. They really are the nasty party despite Corbyn, in his day, claiming Labour were the nicer and kinder party.

Then I am also nasty.

I think ALL misbehaviour must be reported in the public interest, whatever political colour.

I seem to remember Patel’s behaviour was not without blemish either.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 22-May-23 09:20:31

And I definitely do think that miscreant behaviour by our rule makers must without exception always be reported in the media.

It is always in the public interest to do so.

Primrose53 Mon 22-May-23 09:19:00

Ailidh

Not a fan of SB.

Not a fan of speeding.

Not hugely moved that she wanted to do the course anonymously - it's not as though she tried to duck out of the penalty.

Not a fan of the constant trial by media that dominates our culture.

All she did was ask a question!

It’s also a trial by the opposition who will do everything in their power to get rid of people like Priti Patel and Suella Bravermann who are trying to carry out their jobs and sort out the boat people problem. They really are the nasty party despite Corbyn, in his day, claiming Labour were the nicer and kinder party.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 22-May-23 09:17:01

She has form. Got the sack previously for dodgy behaviour. Rules aren’t for Braverman.

growstuff Mon 22-May-23 08:39:28

I agree with you absolutely Wyllow. She could have benefited from being seen as an ordinary person.

Wyllow3 Mon 22-May-23 08:15:56

She could have actually made it into the opposite, as in "mea culpa", attend the course publicly, and tho there might have been a bit of publicity, "virtue signalled" and made a point of saying how bad she realised speeding was.

but no - she tried to hide it. And got public servants to try.
"Convenience?" My hat.

growstuff Mon 22-May-23 08:10:41

Ailidh

Not a fan of SB.

Not a fan of speeding.

Not hugely moved that she wanted to do the course anonymously - it's not as though she tried to duck out of the penalty.

Not a fan of the constant trial by media that dominates our culture.

I agree to an extent for most people. However, with MPs, they are accountable to the public, so should be subjected to public scrutiny. In any case, I suspect this is a case of "trial" by backbench Conservative MPs.

The original speeding conviction was hardly the crime of the century, but the attempted cover up and Braverman's pattern of behaviour are causing her problems.

Casdon Mon 22-May-23 07:12:17

The character revealing element of this hasn’t been mentioned yet, as when the civil servants told her it wasn’t in their remit, she told her political aide to see if she could do the awareness course in private, which they did and were refused. Her speeding was a private matter, not government business, and she got somebody else to do the dirty work for her. That is not acceptable by any standards.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-May-23 06:54:27

Ailidh that about sums up how I feel.

Ailidh Mon 22-May-23 06:03:12

Not a fan of SB.

Not a fan of speeding.

Not hugely moved that she wanted to do the course anonymously - it's not as though she tried to duck out of the penalty.

Not a fan of the constant trial by media that dominates our culture.

NotSpaghetti Mon 22-May-23 04:27:06

I expect she will wriggle out of any further consequences.

"Nothing to see here". 🙄

Vanillasky Mon 22-May-23 03:53:09

(Hopefully she wasn't in a "catastrophic chase"!) grin

Vanillasky Mon 22-May-23 03:42:54

1. Was it really to avoid being reported or just to go privately to save time and get it done?
2. Could that be for security reasons?
3. She accepted the points, fair enough.

I've no idea either way, and have no opinion really, but why was she speeding in the first place? Aren't all top politicians driven around by chauffeurs in cars?

Wyllow3 Sun 21-May-23 23:27:14

She asked her civil servants to try two things after speeding

1. to arrange a completely safety private course to avoid being reported

2. then she asked to be entered for a course anonymously.

They refused as it was not in their remit.

So she took the points.

This was reported widely as in including the Guardian and the Mail, but its become an issue for two reasons

the attempted cover up
and asking civil servants to collude with the cover up.

Its the second which in my mind is possibly the most reprehensible.

Both speak to her character however - "I am different, I am better, I can be above the law. (and I want to hide my wrong-doings)

Hopefully, another nail in the coffin, tho unlikely to be a sackable offence?