No you CANT

I understood paddyann54's post perfectly on first reading but perhaps only because I was equally incensed by the UK govt's petty restriction which feel like "just showing who's boss". However, I am also incensed by the slow progress Scotland has made nationally in the sector having found an excellent recycling scheme in Comrie and Perthshire 20 years ago which extended to the self catering cottage we stayed in. Separating waste for recycling was made super easy and fun! Our 'recycling' in the far North even now is shipped further North...largely for dumping.... and the predilection for ?visitors of chucking drinks containers including even bottles, and takeaway containers out of car windows. Recently saw a heap of fag ends by the road side recently obviously chucked from a car ashtray...just yards from a bin.....and don't get me started on dog poo....

Aveline

Glass is already collected in the whole UK. Grievance mongering again paddyanne?

Oh absolutely.

In my part of Glasgow, we have food bins collected weekly, with general waste, then glass, cans and plastics and then paper and cardboard uplifted on a three week cycle.
In our household, we are pretty rigorous, but I have noticed some of my neighbours, just put everything in the general waste bin. They are not interested in recycling. I can't understand why!

54 million glass and bottles on the Streets where did that fact come from?
That statement makes it sound like the folk in Scotland just lob rubbish about, which isn't true.
Just invest in more bottle banks?

Wales is very hot on recycling, and we already have the 3rd highest recycling rate in the world, capturing 87.3% of glass bottles and jars through household collections, ours is taken weekly where I live.

We have been told that the returns scheme will operate here from 2025, and that is to be a UK wide scheme, so you can return a bottle anywhere. I don’t understand why Scotland couldn’t go earlier, unless the government envisage us all driving up there with cars full of bottles to get the refunds in the meantime?

A bit cross ? More like incandescent.
Far be it for me to sound smug(?)maybe just proud rather of our local recycling but our glass is collected weekly for recycling as is garden and food waste (green bin) hard plastic, cans and cardboard (clear or pink bag) and general waste (black bag)

callistemon no unfortunately I don’t recycle my glass apart from that I can use myself ( jam making etc) we don’t have a fortnightly house collection
We do have bottlebanks but they are few and far between and the nearest to me is easily half a mile away and I can’t carry a bagful of glass that far

Callistemon". I don't know where the 54 million figure came from, perhaps *Paddyanne can tell us.

The figures I have seen are that Mark Ruskell of the Green Party says that "“At least 550 million glass bottles are sold in Scotland every year. Why wouldn’t we include them in a recycling scheme?”

Zero Waste Scotland says Including glass bottles in Scotland's #DepositReturnScheme will allow Scotland to recycle 504 million glass bottles every year.. That is, about 90% of them. the other 10% is about 56 million.

The only £54 million mentioned in Mr Google's search engine results in connection with glass is that "Glass Futures has broken ground on its £54 million development in St Helens, UK." However, they seem to be in the manufacture of glass, not the recycling of it.

Paddyanne may know more.

There is a shop local to us that has a refillable section but there isn't much available and it's all very high-end expensive things

I'd love to see this for more products but slightly cheaper, maybe a slight tax cut.

There is a current trend for having a container for everything and people post videos of themselves decanting their shopping into fancy containers into perfectly organised cupboards and fridges... Then the plastic container it arrives in binned

Why not build on that and have more products everywhere that are refillable, every supermarket could do a range and everyone could slowly switch over a bit at a time, as long as the cheaper cost offset the price of the containers and then saved money long term

I've seen a few attempts at this and a few products that come in bags but not many. I remember doing the milk bags for a while but then that stopped

Thanks Elegran

I just thought most people recycled their glass as it's collected or there are bottle banks in every town.

Yes, glass is recycled, as are plastic bottles and other containers, but just like in England and Wales, a disapointing percentage doesn't get put into the recycling bins. This is about putting on a deposit (a Deposit Return Scheme), so that people are more motivated to return them so as to get back the deposit.

Westminster has agreed that the scheme can go ahead, but excluding glass bottles, since England and Wales will not be launching their schemes for glass bottles until 2025.

Don't you do glass recycling in Scotland? 🤔
Why are there 54 million glass jars and bottles on the streets?

I just googled and, according to My Recycling Wales, Wales recycles more glass than England. Scotland isn't mentioned.

Scotland would be two years ahead of the rest of the Uk in launching this scheme, which would lead to confusion.
Westminster were well aware of the continuing progress toward this, and I would have thought that if they were serious about really wanting to set up others around the country, a better reaction would have been to match the speed at which it was happening on Scotland.

Foxygloves

Thank you for a simple explanation Marydoll
Seems an odd decision to me, but still can’t understand why the incoherent opening post

Because Paddyanne was a bit cross when she posted.

What is the the Scottish DRS ?
circularityscotland.com/deposit-return-scheme

All but six of the 51 deposit return schemes operating elsewhere in the world include glass

Why has Westminster decreed that it can go ahead - but not include glass bottles,?
www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-government-humza-yousaf-drs-uk-government-scottish-b1084125.html

Thank you for a simple explanation Marydoll
Seems an odd decision to me, but still can’t understand why the incoherent opening post

UK ministers have confirmed Scotland’s deposit return scheme (DRS) can go ahead but have insisted there is “insufficient justification” for glass bottles to be included.

I think this may be what paddyann's post is about.

Foxygloves

Could you please explain what the heck this is about?

Glass in your doctors? 🤔
Surgery?

I read it as glass in your doors as I thought it must be a typo.

Foxygloves

Has a glass or a bottle featured somewhere…..

🤣

I’m guessing that in Scotland 20p is added to the price of each bottle/can/ plastic container bought, then when the containers are returned the 20p is given back to the buyer.

I think Westminster has stopped it?

I could be wrong…

paddyanne what has happened to you recently'
? You used to be someone whose views were reasoned and thought through and won respecct.

Now, they are the exact opposite.

What’s this post about ?

Has a glass or a bottle featured somewhere…..

I’m sorry, but the initial post is very unclear.

Glass is already collected in the whole UK. Grievance mongering again paddyanne?