Prince Harry v The Mirror in phone hacking case

Diana’s book was sometime before ?

Jaberwok

Soon? It was nearly 30 years ago! Yes Charles mentioned his sons who were children, not in a spiteful way, but a concerned fashion like most parents who are facing marital crisis. As I said this episode was poles apart from Harry's three year, and counting, relentless spiteful lies, and treachery.

Oh sorry didn't realise 30 years was a long time to remember something, especially something like a person being fit to be a king.
Not that I think there is any standard there really.
But obviously one RF leak paved the way for the others to come. That's how it works. You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Soon? It was nearly 30 years ago! Yes Charles mentioned his sons who were children, not in a spiteful way, but a concerned fashion like most parents who are facing marital crisis. As I said this episode was poles apart from Harry's three year, and counting, relentless spiteful lies, and treachery.

Jaberwok

You are kidding me? Charles had one book and a sit down with Jonathan Dimbleby. Harry has had three years of interviews, Netflix, his book, breaches of privacy including his long time girlfriend, the older lady the pub field, false accusations of racism, pretend wedding, the list is endless and the similarities are poles apart.

There is 180 hours of film shot for the documentary. Firmly under lock and key at Windsor Castle. After the documentary in which he admitted adultery two thirds of an opinion poll thought he should never be king. (how soon some forget)

Jaberwok

Also the Japanese princess is married to a man who is more than able to support her without her resorting to trashing her family, which is not very likely I agree. Harry has no skills to even begin to support his family in an honourable way. So much for Eton! Harry's had No said to him and he doesn't like it!

He's just become an associate after spending 2 years as a legal assistant. Not a top job. He was widely seen in Japan as a fortune hunter. He took the New York bar exam 3 times. And she is loaded.

You are kidding me? Charles had one book and a sit down with Jonathan Dimbleby. Harry has had three years of interviews, Netflix, his book, breaches of privacy including his long time girlfriend, the older lady the pub field, false accusations of racism, pretend wedding, the list is endless and the similarities are poles apart.

maddyone

Glorianny
Please do not tell me that I need to stop posting inaccuracies about the Japanese princess, since I have only posted this one time to my knowledge. This particular princess turned down a one million dollar pay out from her government, normally given to departing royals in Japan, when she went to live in America.

Harry complained that his father wouldn’t pay his living costs and the British won’t pay for his security in Britain.

It's the second time. I remember because I have an interest in Japan and wondered about the succession in such a patriarchal society.
She did not give up her title voluntarily. She had to when she married a commoner. Men don't have to.
She did give up her lump sum but she has had annual allowances .

As I remember it was the subject of much discussion because Harry wanted to pay for protection in the UK .

Yes, I do speak for my self when I say: 'I think most of us....' simply by looking at the comments on here, plus the people who voice their opinions elsewhere. 'Most of us' does not cover everyone.
I do not present my opinions as statements of facts.

Who would have guessed you’re such an ardent royalist Glorianny?

Also the Japanese princess is married to a man who is more than able to support her without her resorting to trashing her family, which is not very likely I agree. Harry has no skills to even begin to support his family in an honourable way. So much for Eton! Harry's had No said to him and he doesn't like it!

Jaberwok

Yes you're right Charles did say those things about his parents and by all accounts has since regretted it. His criticised parents were still relatively young, in good health and more than capable of coping with this unexpected poke in the eye. Harry's onslaught to his elderly dying grandparents was, and still is unforgivable. Charles wrote this once, not relentlessly for three years, intimate details were not included, accusations of racism were not included his grandmother was not included and so on. It obviously did not do lasting damage as has Harry, for we all saw the affection the Queen . PP and Charles later held for each other.

Charles was 46 when he trashed his parents. Harry is 38.
So the age comparison is actually in Harry's favour.
Harry's written one book
Charles had a book and a TV documentary.
There isn't so much difference.
Oh Charles did talk about William and Harry in the documentary, Harry?
As for grandparents. People who make inadequate parents seldom make adequate GPs It's dysfunctional families. Who knows ?William may yet crack and produce his own book.

Glorianny
Please do not tell me that I need to stop posting inaccuracies about the Japanese princess, since I have only posted this one time to my knowledge. This particular princess turned down a one million dollar pay out from her government, normally given to departing royals in Japan, when she went to live in America.

Harry complained that his father wouldn’t pay his living costs and the British won’t pay for his security in Britain.

Yes you're right Charles did say those things about his parents and by all accounts has since regretted it. His criticised parents were still relatively young, in good health and more than capable of coping with this unexpected poke in the eye. Harry's onslaught to his elderly dying grandparents was, and still is unforgivable. Charles wrote this once, not relentlessly for three years, intimate details were not included, accusations of racism were not included his grandmother was not included and so on. It obviously did not do lasting damage as has Harry, for we all saw the affection the Queen . PP and Charles later held for each other.

Speak for yourself eazybee.

I just find the condemnation of one member of a highly dysfunctional and damaging family, who plainly has mental health problems, and has been left to cope with them, completely unacceptable

Oh dear.

Harry will keep putting himself out there and thst will inevitably invite comment.

As I said previously, if he has MH problems (as you have diagnosed) then he has been in the very best position to seek help, he has wealth, he has contacts, he helped set up a foundation to help others.

He does not have to go on a NHS waiting list like so many who are suffering far worse than him; he came through a war zone with limbs intact, unlike some of his comrades who just get on with their lives now. He seems unscathed and rather proud of those experiences.

I used to feel rather sorry for him but no longer.

I think most of us find Harry's behaviour completely unacceptable.

What self healing did Harry find when he told the world his brother had been circumcised ?

Spite , malice, cannot heal

I’m just wondering . . .
Who on GN (or anywhere else) believes that two wrongs make a right?
Who for example, would excuse Fred West’s children if they acted as he did, on the grounds that he did it first.

Don’t most people want to do better than anything they think their parents did wrong?

Harry doesn’t seem to get that. If he knew that people would excuse him on those grounds, would he be happier?

maddyone

I understand that there are some royals who have given up all rights to the throne and moved to the USA and guess what? They work for a living! There’s a novel idea! The princess from Japan is one such person, but apparently there are others. Harry hasn’t had to give up his place in the line of succession (although I suspect the normally non revolutionary British people might revolt if he was ever to become king) nor have his children. They haven’t given up their titles either, in fact they’ve claimed them for their children, although the title of prince or princess seems pretty unnecessary in America.

I’ve had enough of Harry with his constant whinging. There are about three members of his fan club left on Gransnet, but most of the rest of the world seem pretty fed up of him too. I imagine Chelsey Davey is very fed up with him after last week (not much respect for her privacy there was there?) It seems that Harry, contrary to his claims, loves the limelight, relishes the limelight, and finds it difficult to survive without limelight. Probably because basically, he suffers from sibling rivalry and jealousy of his brother, along with a massive sense of entitlement. There’s probably not going to be a happy ending to all this any time soon.

maddyone please could you stop posting inaccuracies about the Japanese RF. The princess was not and could not be the heir to the Japanese RF as it can only pass through the male line. Nor is she working for a living. She was working on a voluntary basis for the Met. Presumably she is still has her own money.
I'm not a member of any fan club. I just find the condemnation of one member of a highly dysfunctional and damaging family, who plainly has mental health problems, and has been left to cope with them, completely unacceptable.

Jaberwok

No,there isn't any law that stops you making money out of trashing your family or even out of your dead motber whom you were apparently devoted to, but it is a pretty low down disgusting way to earn a living even if you are too dim to get a decent job and lead a decent life. You'd have to have a pretty low opinion of yourself, not much to be proud of there to tell the children/grandchildren.

Like Charles did then, only his mother and father were both alive
Charles on his father- Belittling and bullying.
Charle on his mother- not indifferent, so much as detached.
Scarcely praise.
And of course he didn't even need the money. He was doing very well out of the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster. As for a job. Well he just sat around waiting for his didn't he? Then couldn't manage a pen and threw a wobbly.

How much more dignified and admirable has been the conduct of Katherine Duchess of Kent who years ago decided to opt out of representing the RF, and has lived a quiet unassuming life, teaching music and other low key activities while coping with private domestic problems including mental health. The late Queen apparently begged her and the Duke not to divorce which they haven't . Not a breath of scandal from either of them, no salacious spiteful gossip embarrassing the RF, in fact Harry could learn a thing or two from this delightful lady, or perhaps he passed praying for.

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I understand that there are some royals who have given up all rights to the throne and moved to the USA and guess what? They work for a living! There’s a novel idea! The princess from Japan is one such person, but apparently there are others. Harry hasn’t had to give up his place in the line of succession (although I suspect the normally non revolutionary British people might revolt if he was ever to become king) nor have his children. They haven’t given up their titles either, in fact they’ve claimed them for their children, although the title of prince or princess seems pretty unnecessary in America.

I’ve had enough of Harry with his constant whinging. There are about three members of his fan club left on Gransnet, but most of the rest of the world seem pretty fed up of him too. I imagine Chelsey Davey is very fed up with him after last week (not much respect for her privacy there was there?) It seems that Harry, contrary to his claims, loves the limelight, relishes the limelight, and finds it difficult to survive without limelight. Probably because basically, he suffers from sibling rivalry and jealousy of his brother, along with a massive sense of entitlement. There’s probably not going to be a happy ending to all this any time soon.

Our DD2 always had the smallest room when we moved house, but she was easily bribable with the promise of a few beanie babies!

Glorianny wrote,
I'm sure many would have preferred him to lapse silently into drugs or alcohol.
Ouch, that isn't a very pleasant thing to say about posters on here Glorianny, if that is what you are insinuating. It is getting a bit close to the comment made on the catastrophic car chase thread that some posters might have wished H & M had crashed and been injured. I think you are actually nicer than to say that sort of thing.
(I'm merely using another thread to make a comparison, not a TAAT.)