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Prince Harry v The Mirror in phone hacking case

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lemsip Sun 04-Jun-23 08:17:31

When Prince Harry gives evidence in the Mirror phone-hacking trial on Tuesday, he will become the first senior royal to be cross-examined in court since the 19th century. Based on what happened earlier in the trial, it is unlikely the prince will enjoy the experience.

Glorianny Sun 11-Jun-23 13:01:23

Sorry I took
unrecognisable to those who love him.
As Jabberwock's own opinion.
If not is she just speculating about not only what happened, but how those people feel about it? That's weird.

Jaberwok Sun 11-Jun-23 12:58:12

If you'd read my post properly you would have seen that I said "the Harry that HLM (that means Her Late Majesty) knew and loved has disappeared." I did not say that I loved him! How could I?, I didn't know him as you astutely pointed out! His behaviour towards those who love him make me and thousands of others dislike him intensely,I don't have to know him to realise what a deeply unpleasant person he has become. As for grief, most of us who love parents and grandparents coming to the end of their lives, put their needs before our own, well we do in my family and I guess lots of others do too.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Jun-23 12:55:10

maddyone

Did Jaberwok say she loved Harry?
Where?

Nowhere
Nor that she hates him.

Anniebach Sun 11-Jun-23 12:53:58

Yes, who said they loved Harry ?

Glorianny Sun 11-Jun-23 12:48:43

Anniebach

Yet again ‘hate’ , dislike is not hate

I think calling someone you don't know "lying treacherous and unfeeling" could be classified as "hate". It's also the opposite of "love"
"Dislike" is the opposite of "like"

maddyone Sun 11-Jun-23 12:48:08

Did Jaberwok say she loved Harry?
Where?

Sparklefizz Sun 11-Jun-23 12:47:37

When Harry was living in the UK, the "men in grey suits at the Palace" whom he apparently despised, protected him from most of his bad behaviour so we... the public ... only knew a few things. We were shown the good fun side of him and we thought that what we saw was the "real Harry."

I suspect Harry hasn't changed at all ... I think he was always the spoilt entitled bad-tempered and sulky brat he has now shown himself to be..... but with no Royal PR to make his image seem better, we see him as he really is.

Anniebach Sun 11-Jun-23 12:37:06

Yet again ‘hate’ , dislike is not hate

Glorianny Sun 11-Jun-23 12:34:06

Jaberwok

No of course there isn't,but in Harry's case his beloved (?) grandmother ASKED to see him and his wife not once but three times the last being a few days before she died. All was refused. If that's not heartless then I don't know what is. As for his court case! Who knows what the truth was? Harry is a proven liar, so how can anyone believe anything he says. The Harry HLM knew and loved has disappeared and been replaced by a lying treacherous unfeeling creature, unrecognisable to those who love him.

Oh. were you there? How on earth do you know that? Let me guess the RF released it, or just quietly let it slip out.
As I said some people can cope with death some can't.

That's why there is a court case to try to find out the truth.
How can you love someone you have never met and you don't know? You didn't "love Harry" you loved the media image you were fed. Now you hate him for much the same reason.

Jaberwok Sun 11-Jun-23 12:25:01

No of course there isn't,but in Harry's case his beloved (?) grandmother ASKED to see him and his wife not once but three times the last being a few days before she died. All was refused. If that's not heartless then I don't know what is. As for his court case! Who knows what the truth was? Harry is a proven liar, so how can anyone believe anything he says. The Harry HLM knew and loved has disappeared and been replaced by a lying treacherous unfeeling creature, unrecognisable to those who love him.

Glorianny Sun 11-Jun-23 12:13:32

maddyone

Jaberwok
It’s very sad isn’t it? It’s unimaginable that a grandchild would refuse to visit an elderly, dying grandmother. Take the royalty out of it and think about it, and think about if any normal, everyday family behaved that way, and the awfulness becomes apparent.
My daughter visited her grandmother about two months before her death. She came from New Zealand. She was broken hearted when Nana died, and according to her children’Mummy lay on her bed and cried all day after Great Nana died.’
She wanted to come home for the funeral but it was impossible with the flights and timings, so she sent a lovely tribute to her Nana that my niece read out at the funeral.
That’s love. How can Harry’s behaviour be described?

Quite what him seeing someone who was dying has to do with him having his phone tapped and press intrusion I don't know. Some people can cope with seeing dying people some can't and prefer to remember them as they once were. People are different, families are different. When my mum was dying she kept removing her oxygen mask and instructing staff they were not to call me. There's no set way for the dying or the bereaved to behave

maddyone Sun 11-Jun-23 11:48:05

Jaberwok
It’s very sad isn’t it? It’s unimaginable that a grandchild would refuse to visit an elderly, dying grandmother. Take the royalty out of it and think about it, and think about if any normal, everyday family behaved that way, and the awfulness becomes apparent.
My daughter visited her grandmother about two months before her death. She came from New Zealand. She was broken hearted when Nana died, and according to her children’Mummy lay on her bed and cried all day after Great Nana died.’
She wanted to come home for the funeral but it was impossible with the flights and timings, so she sent a lovely tribute to her Nana that my niece read out at the funeral.
That’s love. How can Harry’s behaviour be described?

Anniebach Sun 11-Jun-23 11:43:25

There is no limelight on Andrew

wicklowwinnie Sun 11-Jun-23 11:22:51

Well, it is all taking the limelight off Prince Andrew!!

Jaberwok Sun 11-Jun-23 11:17:22

Despite Harry's implication, William donated his cash to charity, mainly the Invictus Games. Harry is now perceived as horrid owing to his treachery to his own family including his gravely ill grandparents especially HLM when she was actually dying and in considerable pain and distress . She was said to have been devastated at their refusal to visit her at Balmoral. Thh, I don't know how Harry can live with himself knowing the hurt he must have caused to the very person who steadfastly loved and supported him all his life and whom he (allegedly) adored! No one ever believes a proven liar which Harry now is whether they're being truthful or not.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Jun-23 10:43:21

maddyone

I had to laugh. Whilst playing Articulate (children’s version) this evening with our ten year old grandson, his card asked him to describe Prince Harry. He said,

‘Someone with red hair who’s being really horrid this week.’

Out of the mouths of babes.

Out of the mouths of babes.

Horrid Henry!

Glorianny Sun 11-Jun-23 10:37:45

Freya5

Ailidh

I veer in my views of Prince Harry between "an utter tick" and "rather sorry for someone who's not benefitted from any mental health support he's accessed, so that he pings around like a bagatelle ball".

However, if he has been the victim of hacking or other illegal ways of finding out "news", then I support him 100% - in the court case.

It doesn't matter if/that any of the stories about him show him to be the tick I often think him, the issue is about privacy and legality.

Pity he didn't bring this case years ago, he may have been able to remember, at the age of 11, if he was hacked. His greedy wife,money meghan, has propelled him here. His mental state made him easily manipulated.

Well it's quite obvious why he didn't isn't it? The RF never go to court, he was a member of the RF. Couldn't do it could he? William just settled for cash.

Sparklefizz Sun 11-Jun-23 08:23:46

Harry was so ill prepared for his time in court that he was claiming his phone was hacked 2 years before he even owned one !!!

Freya5 Sun 11-Jun-23 07:58:14

Ailidh

I veer in my views of Prince Harry between "an utter tick" and "rather sorry for someone who's not benefitted from any mental health support he's accessed, so that he pings around like a bagatelle ball".

However, if he has been the victim of hacking or other illegal ways of finding out "news", then I support him 100% - in the court case.

It doesn't matter if/that any of the stories about him show him to be the tick I often think him, the issue is about privacy and legality.

Pity he didn't bring this case years ago, he may have been able to remember, at the age of 11, if he was hacked. His greedy wife,money meghan, has propelled him here. His mental state made him easily manipulated.

Joseann Sun 11-Jun-23 06:25:11

I wonder, is it just coincidence that Eugenie and Beatrice have both married men of indescribable wealth, whereas Zara's husband was relatively poor in comparison?

Allsorts Sun 11-Jun-23 06:13:33

I don’t think Eugenia or any of them, should live free of charge, they are all multi millionaires. Sell the properties and help the people that can’t put food on the table although working full time. They should find their own properties, things like this will end the monarchy.

Allsorts Sun 11-Jun-23 06:10:06

The trouble with proven liars no one takes any notice if it were the truth. You cannot trust a liar. I do think he is mentally unwell and not entirely responsible for his erratic behaviour though, all this attention feeds his insecurities.

Joseann Sun 11-Jun-23 05:42:08

Brilliant. (Horrid pretty much every week!)

That's the trouble now. Unfortunately for him, Harry will find it very hard to remove the mean image, because he was so unkind to his family.

maddyone Sun 11-Jun-23 01:34:02

I had to laugh. Whilst playing Articulate (children’s version) this evening with our ten year old grandson, his card asked him to describe Prince Harry. He said,

‘Someone with red hair who’s being really horrid this week.’

Out of the mouths of babes.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Jun-23 20:34:44

according to the media

🤔