What is Boris Johnson up to?

maddyone and Johnson’s remark

“Let the bodies pile high”?

Well, I've got some experience of ITU, both from myself and my late husband.

Johnson was phoning, texting, reading, books and watching TV.

He want there by pre-arranged appointment.

Oxygen masks are bog standard for any sort of chest infection.

Not the usual ITU experience.

He obviously had Covid, but I think perhaps where he was placed had a lot to do with who he was/security/uncertainty how the illness would progress etc.

I apologise, I might express such views about Putin, but that’s all.

I was in hospital with Covid for twelve days. I had pneumonia in one lung. I was scanned for blood clots on my lungs but I was lucky in that respect because I didn’t have clots although I was on a clot busting medicine the whole twelve days. I was also on oxygen for the whole twelve days but thank God, not on a ventilator. I was given eight, or was it nine, different drugs to help me recover. Without this hospital care I have little doubt that I would have died. My oxygen levels were at 82 when I was admitted.
All these people who know so much about how ill BJ was annoy me. None of you know anything about how ill he was because hospitals don’t release medical information to the public, over than he was there and being treated. It’s horrible when people allow personal dislike to colour their views and to lead them to think they actually know, and their knowledge becomes fact to them. They don’t know, it’s nothing more than opinion and not nice opinion at that. However much I dislike a politician or their politics, I would never express such views which lack any kind of basic humanity in my opinion.

springishere

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

How do we know this?

When he arrived at St Thomas' he was put into intensive care and was there for 3 days. He was then moved to a general ward. He was discharged after 7 nights in hospital. He did received oxygen, through a mask (as do asthma and other patients with lung problems) but he was not put on a ventilator, as was Michael Rosen (induced coma for 40 days) and Derek Draper (who still needs round the clock care).

A touch of the usual hyperbole on the part of Johnson methinks.

Boris Johnson was obviously seriously ill with Covid and unless anyone has access to his medical records how can they determine how sick his was and quite frankly why does that matter. Covid and it’s after effects are different many cases I thought he looked pretty rough for quite a while after. And he didn’t have much choice about returning to work quickly.
He like many others caught Covid and like all those in jobs that required them to mix with lots of people he no choice. He couldn’t stay safely at home seeing no one.
His weight may or may not have been a factor but does that mean every overweight person that caught it and became ill only had themselves to blame.

Springishere, going by anecdotal evidence, that Johnson was up all night chatting to the nurses in hospital, I do not believe that he nearly died from Covid. People seriously ill from that dread infection were fighting to breath, gasping to survive. I took it to be that the laughing emoticons were not for Johnson's illness, but for your perceived naivety.

I spoke to someone yesterday who had covid at the very start of the epidemic. He now suffers from asthma because of it and has had to give up a sport which he loved. I wonder how many people that were as seriously ill with covid as Johnson was supposed to have been bounced back so quickly? Johnson’s problem, when he had it ( imo) was that he didn’t take it seriously. Didn’t they have to stop him paying his weekly visit to the Queen when he was obviously ill? He said himself that his weight was a factor and was going to do something about people’s health but it was yet another empty promise. All he takes seriously is making lots of money for himself.

Who said

“Let the bodies pile high”?

Forgive me if I feel nothing for Johnson’s state of health, particularly when we know from clear evidence that he had covid but was absolutely nowhere near deaths door. He even tries to use that to his advantage.

Dreadful, dreadful man.

Saetana

MaizieD

Saetana

HousePlantQueen

springishere

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

hahahahaha

You find the fact he nearly died from covid funny? Nice...

As he was nowhere near 'dying from covid' I think we are at liberty to find such statements amusing. In a black sort of way..

He was in intensive care - they don't put people in there for no reason!

We've been through this time and time again on this forum; the last time was only a few days ago.

Nothing is going to convince you that he wasn't at death's door and nothing is going to convince others that he was.

Accusations of inhumanity are water off a duck's back as far as I'm concerned, when it concerns the man responsible for thousands of unnecessary deaths because of his sheer incompetence and indifference. My sympathy is reserved for the victims of his bungling, both those who died and the families and friends who mourn them...

It will all come out in the Covid Inquiry I'm sure...

I have not bothered to join in the same old stuff on here But for the unqualified poster who knew that Boris was not near death to post so cynically was disgusting. I can never take such people seriously. It is fair enough to criticise politicians but to cast doubt on someone sick enough to be in intensive care is so distasteful. ,

MaizieD

Saetana

HousePlantQueen

springishere

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

hahahahaha

You find the fact he nearly died from covid funny? Nice...

As he was nowhere near 'dying from covid' I think we are at liberty to find such statements amusing. In a black sort of way..

He was in intensive care - they don't put people in there for no reason!

NanaDana What an excellent phrase "teflon-coated, sloping shouldered, non-loadbearing creature" may I nick it? You don't have royalties on it do you?

Saetana

HousePlantQueen

springishere

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

hahahahaha

You find the fact he nearly died from covid funny? Nice...

As he was nowhere near 'dying from covid' I think we are at liberty to find such statements amusing. In a black sort of way..

I want to know what little Rishi and the Cabinet office are up to. I do not believe they want anything coming to light before the next election.

😳 I read this:

This surely influenced some of his later judgements

as funny! The idea that some of his later judgements were influenced by being ill.

Oh my goodness, I didn’t see that. Was the laughing emoji about Johnson being in hospital with Covid? What poor taste some people have! And please, in this age group too! It’s never funny when someone is seriously ill, whoever they are. Starmer, Davey, Johnson; it doesn’t matter whether you like them or not, it’s pretty bad form to find serious illness funny.

HousePlantQueen

springishere

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

hahahahaha

You find the fact he nearly died from covid funny? Nice...

He can't bear to not be in the limelight. He wants to stir up trouble because he still thinks he should be PM and blames his party. I think there are lots of incriminating things that they are trying to hide. Whether we will ever get to the truth is unlikely. Lady Hale is brilliant and is not giving up.

He has asked the security services to see if his old phone can be safely unlocked to access the earlier messages - he was told to stop using the phone for security reasons after it was compromised in a cyber attack and his phone number ended up on the internet. Apparently they are going to sort this out so the inquiry will have all his older messages from 2020 onwards as well. Therefore, it appears he at least has nothing to hide. I am wondering who does though, given the cabinet office's reluctance to hand them over themselves.

He will be up to something grim behind the scenes. His behaviour has been absolutely appalling. He hangs around like a bad smell.

springishere

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

hahahahaha

People seem to forget that Boris nearly died of Covid. This surely influenced some of his later judgements.

BJ is being his usual slippery self, looking after no:1 without a backward glance to anyone. All that running too ….. it’s not working !

I've switched off from this now. I don't think we'll ever get to know the true details and I doubt even the enquiry will. I do agree that Boris has a (not so) hidden agenda of doing anything he can to regain power of some sort and attack Rishi. I also don't believe for a moment that he would hand over anything without knowing it wouldn't incriminate him.