Boris Johnson should be banned from parliament for ‘unprecedented’ lies, rules privileges committee

Katie59 there is no recommendation in the report for a lifetime ban, so that won’t even be voted on, let alone upheld.

Johnson is telling his supporters not to vote against the privileges committee report

I reckon he’s done a deal with Sunak.

Or - he has learned to add up

He may or may not be telling them, but either way, it avoids displaying how little support he has left in the Parliamentary party. When he last tried to foster a rebellion (over Brexit/Northern Ireland) only 20 or so MPs supported him.

Now, however few vote against the recommendations, he’ll be able to say loads more would have if he hadn’t advised them not to.

He is deliberately attracting the maximum publicity to justify his “witch hunt” accusation, I would be very surprised if he gets a lifetime ban upheld.
There is a lot of support amongst party members, don’t be surprised if he gets elected in another seat, by then he will be contrite and promising truthfulness.

There is no defence for Boris Johnson in my mind. None. He has lied and cheated all of his life and will continue to do so unless he decides to grow up

Yesterday was an excellent day for our democracy.

The 90 day ban, reinforces the principle that ministers do not step up at the despatch box and lie.

It is a serious charge, attracting a serious punishment.

ronib

Actually I was looking for information to see what overwhelming crimes other mps had committed in order to be barred for 90 days. I think that justice needs to be proportionate don’t you?

I think that the justice in this case is entirely proportionate.

ronib

Actually I was looking for information to see what overwhelming crimes other mps had committed in order to be barred for 90 days. I think that justice needs to be proportionate don’t you?

I have just looked back at John Profumo, as he lied to Parliament. However, once that had been shown to be the case, he resigned.

Unfortunately Johnson hasn't done the same. Well, he has resigned, as he should, but his behavior around it was less the we should have to accept.

I'm not aware of a case where someone who has been shown to have lied to Parliament did not then resign or where Parliament had to go to these lengths. It looks as if the rule breakers were more honorable in the past.

Smileless2012

Is it possible to prevent him from every becoming an MP again? I hope so, and that it's enforced.

According to Jacob Reese Mogg Boris could stand again if a constituency would have him and vote him in. I don't really know.

Whitewavemark2

Apparently it is thought that he won’t in fact turn up to vote.

Johnson is telling his supporters not to vote against the privileges committee report.

I reckon he’s done a deal with Sunak.

Or - he has learned to add up.

I am utterly gobsmacked its ended this way. Who would have thought.

Apparently it is thought that he won’t in fact turn up to vote.

Whitewavemark2

If they are relying on Sunak, then I would give up.

I have to admit that I thought people were being a bit harsh on Sunak, saying he was weak. If he doesn't allow a proper vote on this on Monday, he is certainly weak.

Actually I was looking for information to see what overwhelming crimes other mps had committed in order to be barred for 90 days. I think that justice needs to be proportionate don’t you?

Primrose53

We now have foul mouthed fishwife, Angela Rayner calling out BJ when she and Starmer were drinking and eating curry during covid at a works do but managed to wriggle out of that. Likewise the bright red trout pout Beth Rigsby who was banned from reporting on Sky news for attending Kay Burley’s birthday party who was herself removed from our screens for 6 months.

Not that you are biased and don't seem to understand what Johnson is accused of then.

MaizieD I didn’t get this information from Guido Fawkes! It’s Erskine May….. good grief!
So you are okay with a return to the 17th century? Fine

ronib

MaizieD do you know that we are returning to the 17th century in invoking lengthy suspensions from the Commons? Erskine-May

Where are you getting this stuff from, ronib? This is another desperate attempt to cast doubts on the Privilege's Committee, isn't it?

You do realise that a huge amount of our constitutional practice derives from the 17thC?

Parliament is sovereign. Parliament can make whatever bloody 'rules' regarding its procedures that it likes and it can use them whether they are 300 years old or 3 years old.

Do you know that the Bill that just went through the Lords which allows a minister to make something law that has already been rejected in another bill by Parliament is allowing the minister to use powers that date back to Henry VIII?

You really should stop reading guido fawkes.

That isn’t saying much though. Sunak’s ideology is no different to Johnson’s.

Sunak’s economic policies are straightforward free market, look at how the Freeport’s are shaping up, sleaze, tax avoidance, smuggling and the erosion of workers rights - all foretold but ignored. His instinct is to favour the wealthy, thus ensuring a continued widening equality gap.

He is pushing the NHS into oblivion and has nothing to say about social care.

Nothing will change except the lies won’t be so frequent, although he has been caught out a number of times.

His loyalty to this country will only last until he emigrates full time to the USA - almost certainly as soon as he loses the premiership.

Whitewavemark2

If they are relying on Sunak, then I would give up.

There is no other option though is there Whitewavemark2, another leadership election would not help, and he’s being undermined by all the in-fighting. I think he’s an honourable man in comparison to Johnson.

I see Johnson is going to write for the Daily Mail.

The right and proper place for him I would have thought😄😄😄

If they are relying on Sunak, then I would give up.

ronib

Can’t help it if you choose unconsciousness. But wait awhile this still has legs.

As far as Johnson is concerned it’s done ronib. The threats are just hot air, with no foundation - it was a Tory heavy panel for goodness sake, Harriet Harman’s role was only to chair it, the poor woman, it must rank as the worst job of the year. The current posturing are like the dying throes of an empire. I’d advise Tory voters to start putting their support and energies behind Sunak, who is the only chance left.

MaizieD do you know that we are returning to the 17th century in invoking lengthy suspensions from the Commons? Erskine-May

Just wondering where I said ‘all’ politicians lie. ‘Many’is not the same as ‘all’ but perhaps for some it might be. Language changes and develops, especially English it seems. I suspect Boris will be back, same as his big brother Donald.

ronib

Can’t help it if you choose unconsciousness. But wait awhile this still has legs.

Still not making sense, ronib!

Do you know what a 'stream of consciousness' is?

Can’t help it if you choose unconsciousness. But wait awhile this still has legs.