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Boris Johnson should be banned from parliament for ‘unprecedented’ lies, rules privileges committee

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 15-Jun-23 11:24:34

In a weird sort of way, that would be anti-democratic. If enough members of a political party want him to represent them, and then he gets enough votes in an election……..

Not sure we should proscribe would-be representatives.

Just hope people have sufficient sense.

ronib Thu 15-Jun-23 11:23:21

The next stage in the process - having used the garlic - is for the House of Commons to vote on the recommendations contained in the report.
And don’t forget that the pen is mightier than the sword and this will run and run - sigh.

Smileless2012 Thu 15-Jun-23 11:19:04

Is it possible to prevent him from every becoming an MP again? I hope so, and that it's enforced.

Siope Thu 15-Jun-23 11:16:19

A very Johnsonesk deflection.

Apologies if that’s how it came across. I wasn’t trying to deflect, but I do think the media’s sloppiness has helped Johnson, and if this report is about anything, it’s about the importance of accuracy, and how much words matter.

MaizieD Thu 15-Jun-23 10:58:30

I thought this deserved its own thread. I have never seen anything like it in my lifetime. It is not about Johnson, I my view but about Parliament and our Democracy.

I agree, DaisyAnne. Just this once I don't see why we shouldn't have two threads running on a similar topic. This may attract posters who don't realise it's on the other thread, or who don't want to scroll to the end to find it.

I've posted the link to the full report here and on the other thread.

committees.parliament.uk/publications/40412/documents/197199/default/

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 15-Jun-23 10:52:27

Siope

The Independent should be ashamed of its sloppy language.

The Committee cannot and has not ‘ruled’. And it hasn’t - and could not - suggest banning him. It has recommended that he does not get unfettered free access to the Parliamentary estate. He’d still be allowed in, he’d just have to apply for a visitor’s permit. And obviously he’d be allowed back if he was re-elected.

I don't think this is about the journalism either. A very Johnsonesk deflection.

I hope this recommendation brings back some veracity to politics but then, I was always a dreamer.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 15-Jun-23 10:42:37

Casdon

Being discussed already on
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1324801-Boris-Johnson-has-resigned-with-immediate-effect

I thought this deserved its own thread. I have never seen anything like it in my lifetime. It is not about Johnson, I my view but about Parliament and our Democracy.

Siope Thu 15-Jun-23 10:39:46

The Independent should be ashamed of its sloppy language.

The Committee cannot and has not ‘ruled’. And it hasn’t - and could not - suggest banning him. It has recommended that he does not get unfettered free access to the Parliamentary estate. He’d still be allowed in, he’d just have to apply for a visitor’s permit. And obviously he’d be allowed back if he was re-elected.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 15-Jun-23 10:38:51

Our final conclusion is in relation to sanction. Although Mr Johnson’s resignation as an MP renders it impossible for a sanction of suspension to be imposed, we draw attention to the fact that before the events of Friday 9 June we had provisionally agreed to recommend a suspension long enough to engage the provisions of the Recall of MPs Act. In the light of Mr Johnson’s further contempts, we put on record that if he had not resigned his seat, we would have recommended that he be suspended from the service of the House for 90 days for repeated contempts and for seeking to undermine the parliamentary process, by:
Deliberately misleading the House
Deliberately misleading the Committee
Breaching confidence
Impugning the Committee and thereby undermining the democratic process of the House
Being complicit in the campaign of abuse and attempted intimidation of the Committee
In view of the fact that Mr Johnson is no longer a Member, we recommend that he should not be granted a former Member’s pass.

Casdon Thu 15-Jun-23 10:35:35

Being discussed already on
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1324801-Boris-Johnson-has-resigned-with-immediate-effect

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 15-Jun-23 10:22:18

The headline in the Inependent.

Had he not released parts of the "in confidence" report and led an attack to undermine the Parliamentary Committee and those on it, it would have been less, but this brought it up to a recommendation of 90 days and removal of his pass.