Boris Johnson should be banned from parliament for ‘unprecedented’ lies, rules privileges committee

I'm waiting with interest for the forthcoming Privileges Committee report on the abuse and intimidation suffered by the Committee such that members had to receive extra protection. I hope they name names and that the Met are required to investigate any threats made.

Proportional representation please

The "culture" of lying and lying and constantly getting away with it absolutely should be cancelled

Bring back decency, integrity and honesty into our politics. We've had enough of the lies.

It’s the culture of cancelling people/ comments you don’t agree on, not cancelling a specific culture btw MaizieD

The thing is ronib that if members believe they are above others then they have no patience with anything they may say and strive always to appear to come out on top.I was simply agreeing with Galaxy that the snobbery around anyone who reads the DM is astounding on this forum.

MaizieD not at all. The culture of trying to express an opinion without fear of being ridiculed? Isn’t that important on sites like Gnet? To explain - if you agree that the msm is tied to the ruling elites , surely there needs to be alternative spaces for the ordinary folk to say what they think without being shot down?

The problem with the tabloids is that it’s difficult to not see some of their lying headlines if you eg go to a supermarket or to a garage. I can still remember a front page headline saying ‘the Queen supports Brexit’ when I went to our village shop. I couldn’t not see it as I had to walk past it to enter the shop.

ronib

You mean you are not engaging in cancel culture MaizieD?

You know, ronib, I found that bit completely meaningless. What 'culture' am I cancelling? A culture of lying?

You mean you are not engaging in cancel culture MaizieD?

Oreo

Just my opinion MaizieD and I was answering another posters comment. You obvs don’t like the criticism and are trying out some cancel culture.

Amazing how two virtue signallers manage to comment on something that didn't even happen.

There was no 'snobbery' on this thread.

What I am struggling to understand is why do you think that reading the Daily Mail or the Guardian or the Daily Telegraph means that you believe what is written?
Isn’t scanning the media just a way of updating on the latest news?
Also since the msm works with government to present the acceptable face of its policies, it’s important to turn to discussion blogs etc which are not under censorship/control.

Just my opinion MaizieD and I was answering another posters comment. You obvs don’t like the criticism and are trying out some cancel culture.

Gotta love the Marsh family !

Oreo

Galaxy

Have you seen the other thread about the Mail and its readers, its horrendous, the same 'tone ' directed at those who voted Brexit. It's fairly counterproductive to say the least.

It’s something I’ve noticed on this forum Galaxy a def middle class looking down the nose attitude at Daily Mail readers. Treated as some form of human sub species.
An ah, the dumb working classes and their favourite paper they must all have voted for Brexit sort of thing.
A lot of readers will be Labour voters amongst others, no not far left but Labour voters so not right wing at all and will be a mix of people who voted to leave the EU and those who voted to remain. Not all remainers are Guardian readers or even Mirror readers come to that.

As Galaxy was talking about a 'snobbery' which did not exist on this thread your post is irrelevant to this discussion.

You just seem to be grabbing the chance for a bit of self satisfied virtue signalling.

Marsh family
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuoOgRzqJa8

I think we tend to ignore the lies that come from 'our tribe' so we tend to ignore the lies that prop up our beliefs. We get very agitated about challenging some lies but others we just let slide. I am not sure it's about a noble search for truth.

ronib

MaizieD Seventy-Two Virgins - seems vaguely autobiographical?

Good one 😂

Galaxy

Have you seen the other thread about the Mail and its readers, its horrendous, the same 'tone ' directed at those who voted Brexit. It's fairly counterproductive to say the least.

It’s something I’ve noticed on this forum Galaxy a def middle class looking down the nose attitude at Daily Mail readers. Treated as some form of human sub species.
An ah, the dumb working classes and their favourite paper they must all have voted for Brexit sort of thing.
A lot of readers will be Labour voters amongst others, no not far left but Labour voters so not right wing at all and will be a mix of people who voted to leave the EU and those who voted to remain. Not all remainers are Guardian readers or even Mirror readers come to that.

Galaxy

But there are lies in all forms of media, so it is interesting that it is always the Mail that is mentioned. I think it was this thread where someone linked to Twitter. I cant even begin to describe the many problems that Twitter poses, its record on child safeguarding for example is horrendous, and certainly worse than the mail. But Twitter is the home of the middle class so it doesnt receive the same criticism.

Which absolutely doesn't address my point that there was no 'snobbery' about the DM on this thread.

Where do you stand, Galaxy?

Are you perfectly happy for people to be fed lies without anyone pointing out that they are lies and suggesting that it might not be a bad thing if people didn't have an opportunity to access them?

Or do you think that being fed a diet of lies is unhealthy and people should be at liberty to point that out?

Both my questions relate solely to the 'no snobbery on this thread' point.

But there are lies in all forms of media, so it is interesting that it is always the Mail that is mentioned. I think it was this thread where someone linked to Twitter. I cant even begin to describe the many problems that Twitter poses, its record on child safeguarding for example is horrendous, and certainly worse than the mail. But Twitter is the home of the middle class so it doesnt receive the same criticism.

When I used to fly between France and the UK monthly I always picked up the free DM - very useful for my young puppy's contained area.

I haven't seen snobbishness about DM readers on this thread, Galaxy.

varian wondered why people believed its lies. Was that snobbish?

Marydoll 'thanked god' that few of the poor she worked among could afford to buy it. Snobbish? I'd interpret that as relief that the DM's lies couldn't reach them.

I don't know about the other thread because I haven't really been following it. I was just surprised that posters appeared to be comfortable with their fellow citizens being fed lies.

Do you just see inherent snobbery in any criticism of the DM?

Galaxy

Because that's the current topic, if there was racism on a thread I would challenge that as well.

I would challenge racism and extreme views too, but I can’t be bothered challenging about prejudice against readers of newspapers. There’s another thread talking about what Guardian readers are like - it’s all equally silly.

And I spend way too much of my life challenging the far left, that's part of being a member of the labour party.

Because that's the current topic, if there was racism on a thread I would challenge that as well.