Spotify dumps deal with Harry and Meghan

I don’t think he meant it literally.

It was an expression of exasperation and contempt. And I think as Monica says an element of blame because they did oversell and haven’t been able to come up with what was expected.

I expect the deals were dependent on results not total upfront payment. They won’t be getting all of the original amount.

Like The Bench, the media stuff just wasn’t very good and quite full. It’s such a overcrowded market nowadays things really have to stand out to succeed.

media chiefs are usually not fools and are good at driving hard bargains and seeing through hype.
Agree.
Anyone would only have to be in conversation with Harry for a short time to realise he is of limited intelligence, and Meghan is one of thousands of ex-actresses attempting to secure lucrative deals for self-promotion.
I wonder if the Spotify deal really did involve payments of so many millions of dollars or if this is yet another example of M & H hype and self-delusion.

The Sussexes are not grifters. Maybe they oversold themselves, thinking in the euphoria of the publicity and support they got when they bolted and thought that they could dominate the world with their wisdom and knowledge, but media chiefs are usually not fools and are good at driving hard bargains and seeing through hype.

When push came to shove the Sussexes oversold themselves, but there was no intention to deceive, and the media chiefs, mostly Americans, fell for the mystique that surrounds royalty - at least in the eyes of many Americans.

The mystique dissolved very fast, The Sussexes turned out to be very much less talented than they thought they were and people soon tire of people who can only whine. The media chiefs are left much the poorer and with egg on their faces, so they, like others, are looking for people to blame.

Will they sue him? Litigation is their favourite hobby.

A Grifter is someone who is a small scale operator, so it doesn't accurately describe H&M. Their accumulation of ill-gotten gains at the expense of repeatedly wounding family and friends is on an industrial scale. The fact that they routinely use the media which they claim to hate so much to achieve this is the ultimate hypocrisy.

It appears a senior Spotify executive used the word ' grifters' which refers to petty or small scale swindling according to Google. Surely not!

I suppose the question is will product promoters see Meghan as a plus or a minus.

I think the Budweiser disaster has made a number of Companies more cautious in who they ally themselves with. It’s shown that celebrity on its own is not enough. It’s a calculation of how many will follow the celebs lead and how many will be turned off because of negatives.

Just incidentally, I’ve given up buying any magazines because of the Celeb articles they all seem packed with. 😬

"Because Gwynnie is the only one we've heard of" I read somewhere various Kardashians, or possibly all, have similar. I imagine they aren't alone in the US, possibly loads here too, we're the wrong demographic for all of that!. A way of promoting "own products" or in the case of "The Tig" which Meghan had pre Harry, product placements on the site of favoured goods earned freebies.

Indeed, when it comes to financial loss these media companies have burnt their fingers and when it comes to their reputations, and it seems their popularity, H & M have burnt fingers too.

I think many people when they heard the size of those first money advances from Netflix and Spotify did wonder that seemingly successful business should be willing to pay so much money for two people with no track record of success other than as an actor in a B list tv series and a back ground as a low rank, but effective, army officer and 2nd son in the royal family.

It seems the media executives were as bedazzled by fairy dust as many far more naive people were. I think the Spotify Chief Executive has said what he says because he know that he fell for the fairy dust as much as anyone and has been made to look a fool - and knows it.

And I do not blame H&C for grabbing all these offers while they could. I am sure that they realised that the big money offers from these sources, wouldn't reappear if they didn't grab them while they could and I am sure that even with the contracts being truncated they are still much the richer fr the deals and it is the media companies creeping away with burnt fingers.

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Ooh, that is quite nasty.
I think they truly believe the screenplay they have written for themselves.

Anniebach

Never heard ‘grifters’ googled it - ouch

Me neither, off to Google.

Casdon

Marydoll

That was meant to be a text to DD to say it's raining. 🤭

Actually Marydoll that’s more interesting, I wish it would rain here.

Apparently there was a heavy downpour very early this morning.
I slept through it.

lyleLyle

Also, Gwenyth Paltrow is definitely not the only celebrity in the Life Style brand game. Not sure why the focus is so heavy on her here.

Because Gwynnie is the only one we've heard of!

Shakespeare in Love 😀 Loved it!
Our very own Chris Martin (from Devon) and that famous conscious uncoupling

I thought it was grafters; I was wrong! (so appropriate.)

And I thought she’d gone…another incarnation? Guess it makes life interesting.

Cross posts with Meryl regarding the film, I saw it a long time ago, John Cussack and Annette Benning starred if I remember rightly.

I'd heard the term grifters, in fact I think there was a film, The Grifters, a while back, never quite sure what it meant, something along the lines of confidence tricksters, I thought? I mentioned "the grifters" assertion in today's news to my husband, and he said "oh that just means they work hard" "I do believe you're getting your grifters mixed up with your grafters" was my response.

My comments up thread regarding Meghan adopting a lifestyle blog Gwyneth Paltrow style, who has indeed been at that quite a while and before that an accomplished actress, an Oscar winner no less! was apropos of the fact that Meghan did have her own blog before she met Harry called "The Tig" and it is often mentioned that she would like to resurrect it, but as I also said, that remains to be seen!

Oh dear, no I haven’t.

Have non of you seen the film The Grifters?
Martin Scorsese, it’s sums up those 2 perfectly 😂

I googled it too.

Glad it wasn't just me who had to google.

I need to get out more!

Grifter is a well known expression in the states and pretty common here in recent years. I have often heard it in relation to Meghan but this is the first time I’ve heard it applied to Harry too. What a come down.

I had to Google to find out what a grifter is.