Can you be seen as being "patriotic" ; if you support one political party no matter what they do to the country as a whole?

I’m not absolutely sure what patriotism is or means. I think UKIP and their latest incarnations use patriotism in a very bad and evil way though.

I think that people mostly choose their party (at a GE) based on who will do the most good, or if they are pessimists, who will do the least harm.

I am a Labour voter and always have been. I am losing patience over the gender politics issue, and over the reluctance to allow people who stand for office if they do not fit exactly with the views of those at the top. For those reasons I am no longer a member of the LP, but I will still vote for them because I believe that in spite of my differences from the party line they would still be a lot better than the Tories (and for various reasons I wouldn't consider voting Lib Dem).

Is that about patriotism? I don't know.

I make no secret of the fact that I am a member of an anti immigration party which believes in putting British born people first.

You can strongly disagree with the politics in your country but still love your country with a passion. Politics isn’t the people, just a bunch of people who are supposed to , but don’t, represent the people.

Whitewavemark2

That post of mine is chaotic😄 I should have proof read it!

I kwym and I agree (chaotic or not!)

It's the floating voters who are the ones who bring about change 🙂

Smileless2012

I suppose it depends if the 'harm' is regarded as a necessary evil in order for things to improve in the long run. If it is then I guess that would be seen as being patriotic.

I agree with you to some extent Smileless. However, this does mean you should be prepared to hear from all sources about whether the evil IS necessary. Just deciding it is because your party says so is really not patriotic.

😂 The message wasn't chaotic.

That post of mine is chaotic😄 I should have proof read it!

I'd agree with that, wwm2. I think that's patriotism and the "my country right or wrong" attitude could be unhealthy nationalism. They probably overlap a bit somewhere...

My patriotism sands entirely with my country. So my support of any political country is entirely dependent on how they behave towards my country.

But I certainly wouldn't support the "my country right or wrong idea".

At first glance I'd say yes to this OP question.

But, then, it all depends on what you see as harm, I suppose. What one person, of whatever political persuasion, sees as harmful to society, someone else, whether of the same party or a different one (or none at all as in floating voter), might not see as harmful.

So, as with most political and philosophical questions, I'm left with "it depends".

You mean like the people in Russia see war with their neighbour as a necessary evil?

I suppose it depends if the 'harm' is regarded as a necessary evil in order for things to improve in the long run. If it is then I guess that would be seen as being patriotic.