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Is he a bot or merely incapable of thinking for himself?

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CvD66 Sun 25-Jun-23 09:45:57

Whenever interviewed or answering questions live, the Prime Minister ‘rinses and repeats’ ie repeats one sound bite. The interviewer can ask four different questions and the PM seems only able to repeat one answer - the topic he is pushing that day! So is he a ‘bot’ ie merely a parrot of his team’s latest thoughts or is he merely incapable of thinking for himself?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 27-Jun-23 09:46:44

In what way have the hopes of a whole generation for a life even as good as their parents been blighted? Which generation, and specifically how has the current government blighted their hopes?

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 27-Jun-23 09:45:42

GrannyGravy13

I am more inclined to be right of centre, but not as is often described on here as ^far right^

The far right Tory has risen to power in their party over the whole of this government GG, and Sunak is certainly a leading light when it comes to far right economics.

Casdon Tue 27-Jun-23 09:44:36

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

P.S It's possible that a 'warped view' of Conservatism stems from the views of tory posters on this site...

Oh that’s unfair MaizieD

Not all Tories are the same just as not Labour followers are the same.

I would be mortified if I came across as uncaring…

You’re right there, or should I say, correct rather than right to avoid any confusion!
When you get to know people on here you realise just how many shades of political views there are.

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 27-Jun-23 09:41:08

MaizieD

Germanshepherdsmum

You have a warped view of Conservatism Daisy.

What has Sunak done to the poor? He has done plenty for them. Think about the cost of living payments and support with fuel bills.

Let’s be honest - no Conservative PM will ever ‘cut it’ for you.

There is a vast difference between long term initiatives to improve people's conditions (like pay rises which account for inflation) and short term temporary sticking plasters which are cut when crisis is over.

The refusal to pay public sector workers anywhere near enough to mitigate the effect of inflation, using the mendacious excuse that wage increases will contribute to inflation, seems to indicate a steadfast resolution of the government to inflict hardship on workers and destroy public services.

How many people do you think feel better off after this government GSM. How many people do you think look forward to a more hopeful future than they did before they came on the scene? We have a whole generation whose hopes for a life even as good as their parents has been blighted, let alone one that is better than the last generation.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 27-Jun-23 09:39:19

I am more inclined to be right of centre, but not as is often described on here as far right

GrannyGravy13 Tue 27-Jun-23 09:36:43

DaisyAnneReturns

For your "cool, calm, and collected" read my embarrassing GG

I wonder how long the excuses will be made? He is certainly being torn apart on the internet and the interview is being played and played.

Still, with what his/your party has done to this country we need someone who tries to cheer us up. Perhaps that was what he was doing.

I haven’t got a party DaisyAnneReturns

I am one of the politically homeless.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 27-Jun-23 09:35:15

MaizieD

P.S It's possible that a 'warped view' of Conservatism stems from the views of tory posters on this site...

Oh that’s unfair MaizieD

Not all Tories are the same just as not Labour followers are the same.

I would be mortified if I came across as uncaring…

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 27-Jun-23 09:34:50

For your "cool, calm, and collected" read my embarrassing GG

I wonder how long the excuses will be made? He is certainly being torn apart on the internet and the interview is being played and played.

Still, with what his/your party has done to this country we need someone who tries to cheer us up. Perhaps that was what he was doing.

Casdon Tue 27-Jun-23 09:33:01

This is the latest YouGov poll
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2023/06/22/sunak-favourability-drops-wake-privileges-committe
It may change over time, but the uphill struggle is getting steeper currently.

MaizieD Tue 27-Jun-23 09:32:24

P.S It's possible that a 'warped view' of Conservatism stems from the views of tory posters on this site...

MaizieD Tue 27-Jun-23 09:31:19

Germanshepherdsmum

You have a warped view of Conservatism Daisy.

What has Sunak done to the poor? He has done plenty for them. Think about the cost of living payments and support with fuel bills.

Let’s be honest - no Conservative PM will ever ‘cut it’ for you.

There is a vast difference between long term initiatives to improve people's conditions (like pay rises which account for inflation) and short term temporary sticking plasters which are cut when crisis is over.

The refusal to pay public sector workers anywhere near enough to mitigate the effect of inflation, using the mendacious excuse that wage increases will contribute to inflation, seems to indicate a steadfast resolution of the government to inflict hardship on workers and destroy public services.

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 27-Jun-23 09:27:26

Sorry, the quote escaped again. That was to GrannyGravy

GrannyGravy13 Tue 27-Jun-23 09:26:22

Daisymae

It seems to me like he's been given a script and will not deviate. It's almost like someone else is pulling the strings. He's not coming across as an authentic person who has faith in what he's saying. Imho

I think he is wary of the media picking up on and taking sentences/sound bites out of context.
He knows what he wants to say and doesn’t deviate. His party has formed the Government for a long time and he knows that their backs are up against the wall

He is on a mission of damage control. he is also cool, calm and collected.

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 27-Jun-23 09:25:48

No, you don't, but it is easier if you have gained some understanding in some way. Perhaps you know of research he has been involved with.

Ian Duncan Smith was once ask to take part in a programme where celebrities would live for a period with people on benefits. He wouldn't do it. When asked why, he said he couldn't truly understand how it feels. He would know, that at the end of end of it, he would go home to money in the bank.

Daisymae Tue 27-Jun-23 09:17:20

It seems to me like he's been given a script and will not deviate. It's almost like someone else is pulling the strings. He's not coming across as an authentic person who has faith in what he's saying. Imho

GrannyGravy13 Tue 27-Jun-23 09:16:35

You are implying by your posts that nobody who is in your opinion wealthy and/or Conservative can understand what it is like to be poor and/or have money worries,
which is quite frankly untrue

GrannyGravy13 Tue 27-Jun-23 09:11:18

DaisyAnneReturns

I would respectfully point out that you do not have to personally experience something to have empathy and understanding of a situation.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 27-Jun-23 08:42:50

Indeed grannybuy. We don’t have to personally experience everything to understand it.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 27-Jun-23 08:41:33

You have a warped view of Conservatism Daisy.

What has Sunak done to the poor? He has done plenty for them. Think about the cost of living payments and support with fuel bills.

Let’s be honest - no Conservative PM will ever ‘cut it’ for you.

grannybuy Tue 27-Jun-23 08:39:56

Although he hasn’t actually experienced it, there’s a possibility that, with the wealth he has lived with, he may be very aware of how difficult, if nigh impossible, it must be to live on what some people have.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 26-Jun-23 23:52:42

Oreo

It seems ignorant to me to think that any politician who has money would be incapable of imagining what it’s like to live on a reduced income. Do they really think that those in government should in the past have been jobless or living on any kind of benefits and living in a one bed council flat in order to do their job properly?

People on here often don't understand the issues of poverty, so why do you suppose Sunak, in the top 1% of the top 1% is able to? He may well feel sympathy. However, as a Conservative politician and PM all he is interested in is winning an election or at least not losing it as badly as they currently look as if they may.

That is the nature of Conservatism.

He also doesn't seem to connect with the public. Even if he could understand what he has done to the poor and is now going to do those on higher earnings.

So what does he say to show his understanding. "We have got to hold our nerve". Holding our nerve will not put bread on the table. It is more the sort of thing you would have said to someone new to the trading floor (when there was one) in the Stock Exchange.

He is simply and sadly not cutting it. Oh! But he will cut some taxes in the run up to the election. He still has to be as much of a winner as he can be.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 26-Jun-23 23:22:33

Germanshepherdsmum

Lesley60

He has no concept of how real people live and neither does he appear to have any real empathy
The sooner his party is out the better nobody can wreck this country any more than the conservatives already have, we are on our knees so it couldn’t get any worse
People are dying due to the lack of nhs beds, Go appointments and lack of ambulances can it really get any worse if any other party runs the country.

Do you think he’s totally ignorant just because he’s rich? Yes, you do. Do you know him? If you don’t your opinion is somewhat worthless,

Where did Lesley60use the words "totally ignorant"?

Oreo Mon 26-Jun-23 23:02:10

It seems ignorant to me to think that any politician who has money would be incapable of imagining what it’s like to live on a reduced income. Do they really think that those in government should in the past have been jobless or living on any kind of benefits and living in a one bed council flat in order to do their job properly?

VioletSky Mon 26-Jun-23 19:36:47

I must admit I haven't paid much attention but maybe replacing politicians with AI would be a good thing lol

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-23 19:35:28

Casdon

Germanshepherdsmum

Where is the lack of integrity?

Johnson’s Honours is one example.

He ran away from the vote on the Privileges Committee report.

It'a astounding that he, and most tory MPs, couldn't bring themselves to support the principle that lying to Parliament is a very bad thing to do.