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Going back into Europe

(118 Posts)
Norah Wed 05-Jul-23 15:05:32

I voted to stay, doubt we'll rejoin in my life, though I pray to rejoin.

MayBee70 Wed 05-Jul-23 14:40:49

Lyndylou

When did we leave Europe? I feel just as European as I always have, including before we joined the EU and I was living and working in Germany in the early 70s.

As for rejoining the EU, I voted to stay purely because I thought the biggest threat was Russia and that we would be safer in the EU than out. How has that turned out? I would not vote to return, I think the EU may well implode in the next 10 years. Also I would hate taking on the Euro.

I always said I am more than happy to be part of an European Union, just not this particular one.

I think the UK leaving the EU helped Putins decision to invade Ukraine because we weren’t showing a united front.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 05-Jul-23 14:40:25

I think that we will inevitably have to “work closer” in order to save our economy, and pretty soon, whether a Tory or Labour government.

However re-joining is a way off yet I think.

MaizieD Wed 05-Jul-23 14:36:04

As for rejoining the EU, I voted to stay purely because I thought the biggest threat was Russia and that we would be safer in the EU than out. How has that turned out?

I'm not sure that you're making the point that you think you are.

Russia worked pretty hard to help detach the UK from the EU. It has even infiltrated the highest level of our political system. I think it sees that it could do it to other EU nations.

Though the solidarity of support for Ukraine may have shocked it a bit.

Siope Wed 05-Jul-23 14:22:32

The EU doesn’t just make up separate rules to ‘punish’ individual countries.

Anyway delighted to see that we are set to rejoin both Horizon Europe and the Copernicus Earth observation programme very shortly.

Lyndylou Wed 05-Jul-23 14:19:50

When did we leave Europe? I feel just as European as I always have, including before we joined the EU and I was living and working in Germany in the early 70s.

As for rejoining the EU, I voted to stay purely because I thought the biggest threat was Russia and that we would be safer in the EU than out. How has that turned out? I would not vote to return, I think the EU may well implode in the next 10 years. Also I would hate taking on the Euro.

I always said I am more than happy to be part of an European Union, just not this particular one.

Urmstongran Wed 05-Jul-23 14:04:00

I hope we don’t rejoin under any circumstances.

If we did under Starmer make the right noises, I think the EU would demand we accept the euro as a condition of renewed membership.

MaizieD Wed 05-Jul-23 13:59:31

Smileless2012

I think you're right MiniMoon, taking on the euro would be a huge stumbling block and open boarders wouldn't be popular with many either.

All you have to do is engage to 'work towards' joining the euro.Sweden has been doing it for along time now, apparently..

Losing our sovereign currency would be a huge mistake.

Apart from that I'd say 'rejoin' like a shot.

Visgir1 Wed 05-Jul-23 13:56:32

I voted stay in .. But now we are out I think we need to stick by it, things will change hopefully.

I don't think the EU as such will still be around in 10 years.

Smileless2012 Wed 05-Jul-23 13:53:25

I think you're right MiniMoon, taking on the euro would be a huge stumbling block and open boarders wouldn't be popular with many either.

fancythat Wed 05-Jul-23 13:49:12

Go back into it again? No way.

Mamie Wed 05-Jul-23 13:20:53

nanna8

I doubt they would want the UK back by all accounts . A shame,though.

I don't think that is true. I think given a new government and favourable opinion polls that there would be a more positive view from many EU leaders. Macron has already talked of an "outer circle" and I have no doubt he was including the possibility of the UK in that.
There would have to be a gradual re-alignment of legislation and policy, an end to damaging rhetoric and a demographic shift in favour, but I think given time, closer alignment will follow.

MiniMoon Wed 05-Jul-23 13:15:36

It would be very difficult to rejoin the EU I think. To begin with I expect the EU would insist upon UK using the euro as currency, something that most people would be opposed to. Also we would have to agree with the EU policy of open borders, how would that sit with the likes of Suella Braverman?

nanna8 Wed 05-Jul-23 13:09:38

I doubt they would want the UK back by all accounts . A shame,though.

FannyCornforth Wed 05-Jul-23 13:09:17

I think that it’s inevitable.
I also think that Starmer (Steer Calmer) will start talking about it if and when he gets a second term, or maybe even prior to that

NotSpaghetti Wed 05-Jul-23 13:04:47

I would go back but think it's awkward (and would be a hard-sell now) as we won't get all the "extras" and "opt outs" that were hard won in years gone by.

Still think on balance it would be worth it to be honest.

Bea65 Wed 05-Jul-23 13:01:01

11pms 🙃 11yrs

Bea65 Wed 05-Jul-23 12:56:10

What do you wise GNs think about the discussion on us going back into a single market.. will this help us with cost of living/recruitment/employment? . I voted against Brexit as worked and lived in Europe for 11pms and had better standard of living some 25 yrs ago -personally think a return would help us all.??