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FannyCornforth Fri 07-Jul-23 10:12:49

Robert Jenrick demands that murals be painted over

inews.co.uk/news/politics/home-office-painted-mickey-mouse-murals-children-asylum-centre-2461147

What is happening to this country?

SueDoku Sat 08-Jul-23 12:55:15

Whitewavemark2

So the situation is that asylum seekers choose totally legally to seek asylum in the U.K. They are innocent of any illegal act, and yet this government chooses to detain them in a detention centre with the intention of transportation to a country at war with its neighbour and who shoots and kills asylum seekers for protesting that they are hungry.

Whilst these innocents are waiting, they are held in the most unpleasant circumstances that this government thinks it can get away with. Presumably this includes painting out murals.

Pathetic, History will never forgive or forget.

I couldn't agree more. This report shows in a nutshell the mindset of the people running this country now..!
It's utterly abhorrent šŸ˜–

Babsbada Sat 08-Jul-23 13:36:40

That's vile. A shameful thing to say.

Nannashirlz Sat 08-Jul-23 13:41:59

I think media aren’t reporting it correctly because anything to bash the tories they will do no doubt the truth will come out soon because I’m sure he’s got kids and wouldn’t do that but as others have said staff painted it over and maybe they thought Micky being black was racist 🤣 who knows how ppl think nowadays

FannyCornforth Sat 08-Jul-23 13:47:21

Who knows indeed…

westendgirl Sat 08-Jul-23 13:50:37

If the media isnt reporting correctly then they are all doing it with the same story, even on BBC yesterday.
Nannashirlz I 'm afraid you must accept that Jenrick has made a horrendous mistake and in doing so has shown everyone just how heartless his party is.

Casdon Sat 08-Jul-23 13:52:08

Nannashirlz

I think media aren’t reporting it correctly because anything to bash the tories they will do no doubt the truth will come out soon because I’m sure he’s got kids and wouldn’t do that but as others have said staff painted it over and maybe they thought Micky being black was racist 🤣 who knows how ppl think nowadays

It’s been confirmed by the Home Office that this has happened. Robert Jenrick instructed that they be removed. That’s pretty unambiguous.

FannyCornforth Sat 08-Jul-23 13:54:36

Casdon no, no.
I think that you’ll find that it’s all the media’s fault.
Unless it’s on GBNews of course…

(I wonder how they reported it? šŸ¤”)

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:03:53

westendgirl

If the media isnt reporting correctly then they are all doing it with the same story, even on BBC yesterday.
Nannashirlz I 'm afraid you must accept that Jenrick has made a horrendous mistake and in doing so has shown everyone just how heartless his party is.

Another bi-election?
😁

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:09:11

FannyCornforth

Casdon no, no.
I think that you’ll find that it’s all the media’s fault.
Unless it’s on GBNews of course…

(I wonder how they reported it? šŸ¤”)

twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1677370758677291028

Maremia Sat 08-Jul-23 14:14:35

And what does Farage think about this situation? Did he wait to hear the 'other side'? No. He has stated that it is 'a bit mean'. Yes, that Farage.

Saggi Sat 08-Jul-23 14:16:20

What’s wrong with this country?! I can tell you . Nasty little shits in charge!

FannyCornforth Sat 08-Jul-23 14:22:50

Callistemon thanks! It seems it didn’t go down too well with them either!
It’s seems that no one will defend the indefensible (apart from a few on here)

LibbyFionn29 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:25:34

I agree so much with Jane Judge and other kind gransnetters.
I am horrified and rather upset that some people are so lacking in compassion.

M0nica Sat 08-Jul-23 14:36:51

Just got back to GN after a few days away.

I think this action is contemptible beyond belief and that Robert Jenrick is a dispicable little t*rd.

The only comparison I can think of takes me back to the 19th century and the Clergy School at Cowan Bridge in Lancashire, attended by Charlotte Bronte and used as the basis of Lowood School in Jane Eyre.

I assume Robert Jenrick will soon review the catering plan and insist that the children are fed only enough to keep them alive, we do not want the attraction of adequate food and drink making them make that channel crossing, plus, of course, no medical treatment, children making the journey for free treatment on the NHS.

FannyCornforth Sat 08-Jul-23 14:57:44

Thinking about it, it rather smacks of someone out of their depth and quite impotent in their role, pointlessly throwing their weight about.

That and performative cruelty, of course.

There’s a lot of it about at the Home Office

FannyCornforth Sat 08-Jul-23 14:58:12

Good post Monica

NotSpaghetti Sat 08-Jul-23 14:59:04

The Refugee Council has run an Age Disputes Project since 2010. Last year, the it worked with 233 young people whom the Home Office determined to ā€œcertainlyā€ be adults. But, after age assessments, 94% were found to be children.

Even though they will have made a decision as to who they worked with I think this figure is staggering.

The data the government does publish on age assessments can be open to misinterpretation. The organisation Full Fact found some media outlets had incorrectly stated that two-thirds of asylum seekers arriving in the UK between January 2018 and March 2022 who claimed to be children were actually adults. In fact, it showed roughly 20% were in fact adults.
fullfact.org/immigration/child-asylum-seekers-adults/

One in five (20%) is obviously a lot but nowhere near 66% claimed by some.

ixion you may be interested to know that the statistics gathered by the government are incomplete and need to apparently be cross-referenced with other data.
I do wish it was all in one place! I've now spent two hours trying to understand what info comes from where!

Primrose53 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:59:07

@LibbyFionn29.

So anybody who agrees with you is ā€œkindā€ and those of us who don’t ā€œlack compassionā€?

I don’t lack compassion but it is just a mural on a wall that we are talking about in a centre which is supposed to be for ā€œchildrenā€ but it is very well known that many of these ā€œchildrenā€ are men in their 20s.

I was brought up to be kind and compassionate just like my parents were but I draw the line at men masquerading as kids and also firmly believe we need to have controlled immigration.

This week I have donated stuff to a Ukrainian family moving into their first house, I regularly donate to charities close to my heart, I invite a lonely neighbour for meals, I Crochet or knit things for new babies in the village and I help out at local charity events.

We all choose what we support and what we don’t and until we have ensured that our own people have housing, food, healthcare and dental care then I don’t support allowing more and more people into our country every day especially when they have not put a penny into this country to start with.

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 14:59:47

FannyCornforth

Callistemon thanks! It seems it didn’t go down too well with them either!
It’s seems that no one will defend the indefensible (apart from a few on here)

It wasn't easy to watch as it kept cutting out but I did exercise patience and heard what the two guests said.

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 15:01:09

I think this action is contemptible beyond belief and that Robert Jenrick is a dispicable little t*rd.

Don't hold back, M0nica šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Casdon Sat 08-Jul-23 15:04:44

Primrose53

@LibbyFionn29.

So anybody who agrees with you is ā€œkindā€ and those of us who don’t ā€œlack compassionā€?

I don’t lack compassion but it is just a mural on a wall that we are talking about in a centre which is supposed to be for ā€œchildrenā€ but it is very well known that many of these ā€œchildrenā€ are men in their 20s.

I was brought up to be kind and compassionate just like my parents were but I draw the line at men masquerading as kids and also firmly believe we need to have controlled immigration.

This week I have donated stuff to a Ukrainian family moving into their first house, I regularly donate to charities close to my heart, I invite a lonely neighbour for meals, I Crochet or knit things for new babies in the village and I help out at local charity events.

We all choose what we support and what we don’t and until we have ensured that our own people have housing, food, healthcare and dental care then I don’t support allowing more and more people into our country every day especially when they have not put a penny into this country to start with.

Do you really, genuinely think that volunteer would be spending their time painting cartoon murals on walls to welcome men masquerading as children? If you do, it’s time to give your head a wobble I’m afraid.

Callistemon21 Sat 08-Jul-23 15:22:08

Beyond his political pursuits, Jenrick has shown a deep appreciation for history and a commitment to social causes. He has been an active member of the Parliamentary Conservative Friends of Israel group and has spoken passionately about his visit to Auschwitz concentration camp, highlighting the personal connection as his wife’s parents are Holocaust survivors. Jenrick’s involvement with the Jewish community holds great importance in his life.
Robert Jenrick and his wife Michal Berkner are proud parents to three daughters. While their names and specific details about them have not been publicly disclosed, their family life revolves around the love and care they share for their children.

As a couple, Jenrick and Berkner are dedicated to providing a nurturing and supportive environment for their daughters to grow and thrive. They prioritize their daughters’ well-being, education, and upbringing, ensuring that they have the opportunities to explore their interests and reach their full potential.

Having a wife whose parents were Holocaust survivors and being a father himself, you'd think Jenrick would have more compassion and understanding of the plight of young refugees.

Painting over murals is just spiteful and serves no purpose whatsoever.

vegansrock Sat 08-Jul-23 15:38:05

Some years ago I did voluntary work with the probation service. We helped in the visitors centre where families went to meet their imprisoned relative. We were encouraged to make the place bright and cheerful with artwork , toys for the kids and games for the family, and refreshments for all ( including the prisoners). There was also artwork around in the prison to lighten up the surroundings. Part of the reasoning behind this is to enable the prisoners to maintain their family ties. Presumably those who feel a prison is a merely place of detention think it should just look as grim as possible.

Luckygirl3 Sat 08-Jul-23 15:43:28

I don’t lack compassion but it is just a mural on a wall that we are talking about

No it isn't - it is about Jenrick wanting to make the centre unwelcoming.

Now he is either a mean heartless little s**t, or he seriously thinks that this will deter immigration. Either is unacceptable. The first is not the sort of person we want in government; the second is just stupidity.

vegansrock Sat 08-Jul-23 15:45:49

Presumably those who feel refugees should stay in the first safe country they reach think that those heading for Europe should all stay on a Greek or Italian island and go no further.