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BBC presenter allegations.

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Kandinsky Sun 09-Jul-23 13:10:49

I know the last thread was taken down at the op’s request - but if anyone wants to continue discussing this major news item I’ve started this one.

FannyCornforth Wed 19-Jul-23 11:15:11

Annie my mom had PND depression too at exactly the same time.
I’m not sure if she even knew what it was.
She was put on Valium and had a really tough time coming off it.
Things have improved so much

FannyCornforth Wed 19-Jul-23 11:12:33

Annie I’m sorry, I never suggested that talking about mental health was boring.

I hope that you didn’t think that I thought that.

My family and I, and now my DH have suffered from all sorts of mental health issues.

The point that I was making is that the issues seem to be ‘watered down’ (for want of a better expression) by all sorts of celebrities jumping on various band wagons.

It’s often extremely helpful, like when Stephen Fry talked about his bipolar, but other times it minimalists issues.

I also think that Molly may have been making a similar point.

I hope this makes some sort of sense

And thank you for your hard work in that area thanks

Staceyann Wed 19-Jul-23 11:04:32

Anniebach

Perhaps we will see those with mental illness speak out more, hold celebration days like Gay pride .

Must be so boring for you Marygo

That’s rather insulting?!

Kate1949 Wed 19-Jul-23 11:00:04

Not boring Annie. Informative. Anyone who hasn't suffered with mental health problems can't possibly understand the horror of it. I admit to sometimes thinking that, particularly with some celebrities, it is now a bandwagon or an excuse for bad behaviour. If they have genuinely suffered then they have my sympathy because it is hell.

Mollygo Wed 19-Jul-23 10:51:41

FannyCornforth

Mollygo (if that is indeed your name 😉)
I notice that everyone has currently got ADHD.
First it was anxiety (which I was diagnosed with before it was a thing), then ASD…

There must be lots more examples.

Not to mention the ‘little bit OCD’ crowd angry

No, do call me Marygo if it helps.😁😁

Anniebach Wed 19-Jul-23 10:34:09

Fanny I was taken back to 1971, had postnatal depression and went into hospital for a few weeks, a mental hospital, oh the shame, whilst there my husband and two babies were moved from the town where he was stationed to another town , the chief inspector said it was to save me embarrassment when I came home, should that be - when I was released 🙄😀, I have worked in mental health services since that time.

Now I am being boring !

Doodledog Wed 19-Jul-23 10:19:20

Anniebach

Schofield, age 61, age 20 when AIDS hit the world, this caused even more people to be homophobic, not a time to ‘come out’ !
horrible expression. How many homosexuals were working in the media at this time.

Homosexuality has nothing to do with grooming or otherwise exploiting young people, and it is very offensive to suggest otherwise.

Nobody cares if Schofield or anyone else is gay, straight or anything in between. As far as I am concerned he can have sex with any consenting adult, and his marital arrangements are between him and his wife. His choice to 'come out' when he did, whilst highly convenient given the sequence of events that followed, was his choice to make (or not make) and nothing to do with anyone else either.

What do need to be investigated are allegations of grooming of very young people, of exploitation and worse. That sort of thing needs to be investigated regardless of the sexuality of the alleged perpetrators.

FannyCornforth Wed 19-Jul-23 10:19:15

Mollygo (if that is indeed your name 😉)
I notice that everyone has currently got ADHD.
First it was anxiety (which I was diagnosed with before it was a thing), then ASD…

There must be lots more examples.

Not to mention the ‘little bit OCD’ crowd angry

GrannyGravy13 Wed 19-Jul-23 10:16:36

lemsip

dan wooton in his own words about this smear

www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0H2lEJ-Bx4

I saw that earlier, he has his lawyers all over this.

lemsip Wed 19-Jul-23 10:14:48

dan wooton in his own words about this smear

www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0H2lEJ-Bx4

Anniebach Wed 19-Jul-23 10:10:50

Perhaps we will see those with mental illness speak out more, hold celebration days like Gay pride .

Must be so boring for you Marygo

Mollygo Wed 19-Jul-23 09:40:04

tickingbird

At the end of the day, Annie why should anyone have to reveal their sexuality?

Why should they?
Why do they?
It claims to help others, to normalise it and to a certain extent it does. Certainly much better than the fear that lesbians and gays had to live with in the past.
The same way as being dyslexic, or having dyscalculia or ASC or mental health issues is no longer something to be ashamed of or to fear.
The opposite effect is everybody’s got it fatigue. e.g. Listening to the radio to and from work, hardly a session goes by without someone mentioning their mental health.

Anniebach Wed 19-Jul-23 09:39:51

Some were assaulted, driven out of social gatherings

Aveline Wed 19-Jul-23 09:37:14

I agree. The early 80s were very worrying times for gay men.

Anniebach Wed 19-Jul-23 08:55:58

Agree tickingbird but I was speaking of the early 80’s .

tickingbird Wed 19-Jul-23 08:51:30

At the end of the day, Annie why should anyone have to reveal their sexuality?

Anniebach Wed 19-Jul-23 08:45:42

Schofield, age 61, age 20 when AIDS hit the world, this caused even more people to be homophobic, not a time to ‘come out’ !
horrible expression. How many homosexuals were working in the media at this time.

tickingbird Wed 19-Jul-23 07:40:44

DiamondLily

One of the loudest critics of all this with HE and PS was Dan Wootton , columnist and presenter.

Oh dear.....😷

That’s rubbish. I’m no fan of DW but I know he’d already gone to New Zealand before the HE story broke. He also went on tv yesterday and stated categorically he hadn’t issued one word on the Huw Edwards story.

Where are you getting your misinformation from?

Doodledog Tue 18-Jul-23 19:39:24

DiamondLily

Smileless2012

'People in glass houses' springs to mind.

Yep, you need to be very "clean" if you want to mouth off about others.

Someone will always find out.🙄

Absolutely. And gagging people who speak out about this sort of thing is not the way forward, IMO. There have been many people saying for a long time that these scandals run very deep. An obvious problem is that if media personalities are involved, it may not be in the interests of media channels to discuss it, so exposes are quite difficult.

With any luck, the Schofield/Edwards stories will have shone a light onto areas that have been very dark indeed for too long.

varian Tue 18-Jul-23 19:17:03

It looks like Dan Wooton has been found out

opoyi.com/world/who-is-dan-wootton/

DiamondLily Tue 18-Jul-23 18:31:11

Smileless2012

'People in glass houses' springs to mind.

Yep, you need to be very "clean" if you want to mouth off about others.

Someone will always find out.🙄

Smileless2012 Tue 18-Jul-23 18:22:14

'People in glass houses' springs to mind.

DiamondLily Tue 18-Jul-23 18:17:00

One of the loudest critics of all this with HE and PS was Dan Wootton , columnist and presenter.

Oh dear.....😷

bylinetimes.com/2023/07/17/gb-news-star-dan-wootton-unmasked-in-cash-for-sexual-images-catfishing-scandal/

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4852010-dan-wootton-trending-on-twitter

tickingbird Tue 18-Jul-23 15:29:18

Daisy Anne
Might answer a few questions that put an end to speculations that the BBC did nothing and that HE allowed his colleagues to be accused for 3 months.

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 18-Jul-23 15:23:58

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