BBC presenter allegations.

Ok. It's all in my obsessive mind. You clearly know better.

JenniferEccles

Doodledog yes that’s what I meant.

I think that if it had been a hell-raising rock star, or an actor who is an obvious lothario it would have been different, but (assuming this is who we think it is) this man has made a lot of money from being the voice of respectability and reason, so it seems worse, yes.

Doodledog How do you know the presenter is in possession of videos of a 17 yr old? You don’t. You’re making it up. He would have been charged if that was the case.

Somebody else has come forwarded and accused the presenter according to The Telegraph. The plot thickens.

tickingbird

Doodledog

You sound pretty obsessed with safeguarding etc. There are no children involved as far as we know. This second person wasn’t selling images or videos and they are in their 20’s. They were on a dating site and they progressed to private messaging. They didn’t meet. The older man told him who he was (silly man). The younger person then went onto twitter and posted about this tv person he’d been chatting with and alluded he would name him. He then received the abusive text. Not good but the younger person behaved badly and the older one is in need of help in my opinion. According to the BBC this 2nd person hasn’t made any complaints to them or the police.

When you’re posting stick to facts and not what you imagine happened.

I promise I am not 'obsessed' with anything .

Your post is full of what you believe to have happened - maybe you should also stick to facts, assuming you, too, only know what is in the News?

Because of the nature of its business, the BBC does have a safeguarding code. And like it or not, when people are vulnerable (eg addicts) and when there are videos of 17 year olds in the hands of older men, there is a need for it. Mentioning that doesn't equate to obsession.

Anniebach, I'm not playing judge and jury. I am keeping as open a mind as I can, and not assuming that the young people are to blame, whether or not they take drugs or are involved in sex work/are on 'dating sites' (whatever that means in this context).

Ok.

Best you start counting

I wonder what number it will be when the sympathy dries up.

tickingbird

kircubbin2000

The presenter suffers badly from depression so he will probably use that as his excuse.

How do you know this?

I’ve been watching Wimbledon so missed this. Listening to the news now and it sounds pretty damning. If he wasn’t suffering from depression before he will be now!

Friend at BBC told me.

Speaking of naming the man is a threat , but he is only a child in his 20s so that’s acceptable

Doodledog

You sound pretty obsessed with safeguarding etc. There are no children involved as far as we know. This second person wasn’t selling images or videos and they are in their 20’s. They were on a dating site and they progressed to private messaging. They didn’t meet. The older man told him who he was (silly man). The younger person then went onto twitter and posted about this tv person he’d been chatting with and alluded he would name him. He then received the abusive text. Not good but the younger person behaved badly and the older one is in need of help in my opinion. According to the BBC this 2nd person hasn’t made any complaints to them or the police.

When you’re posting stick to facts and not what you imagine happened.

. Understanding safeguarding doesn’t equal playing judge and jury.

There is no choice, you take what comes in without playing judge and jury , difficult for some

I’m sure you’d be a Good Samaritan Doodledog. Understanding safeguarding is a key part of the role

Anniebach

Doodledog I Trust you have never or will ever volunteer for
The Samaritans.

If I did, I would take the complaints of young people who fell prey to older men seriously. Would you?

thanks. It looked odd written down.

Galaxy

I would hope that any support service worth its salt would not condone threatening behaviour to others

www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/worth-ones-salt.html#?utm_content=cmp-true

Yes wealthy or poor if you behave in this way there will be consequences.

Galaxy no, not condone, or tell the caller - if your wealthy deal with it

Is worth its salt an actual real phrase or have I just made that up. It looks odd.

I would hope that any support service worth its salt would not condone threatening behaviour to others

Doodledog I Trust you have never or will ever volunteer for
The Samaritans.

He has been an idiot, but my sympathies are so far with the young people in the case. There may be more for all we know.

I don't think that paying people decades younger for explicit videos, threatening them, and using the fact that you can afford expensive lawyers to keep them quite is in any way acceptable, though. Depressed or not, if you (generic) or I did that we would get no sympathy, and wouldn't deserve any.

I am not the prudish type, and if this involved Mr Bloggs from Nowhere Important I would roll my eyes and think he was a fool, but not want to see him ruined. But this man would, in the course of his work, mix with children and vulnerable people, and he had a reputation as someone trustworthy. There are clear safeguarding issues here, as well as the moral ones. I would feel the same if he were a teacher or a Scout leader.

I think I am going to set myself up in business providing advice to celebrities. I would offer insightful advice such as if you are really famous it's a bad idea to send threatening messages on a phone that can be traced back to you.

JenniferEccles

I was also wondering about the
‘he suffers from depression’ comment, when we don’t yet know for sure who he is.

An awful lot of people Do know who it is and know that he has talked about his depression.