BBC presenter allegations.

So initially, the implication is that the BBC did not respond to the parents' communications, and there is then speculation that this is why they went to the press, in order to create pressure for action. We now hear that there was indeed contact with the BBC, including a discussion which went on "for over an hour". We also hear that the alleged victim approached The Sun newspaper before they published, told them that the allegations were untrue, and asked them not to print them. The parents are upholding their initial claims, and have suggested that the alleged victim is still being manipulated. The Lawyer for the alleged victim has repeated that the claims are "total rubbish", has advised The Sun accordingly, in writing, and accused them of breaching the privacy of their client. The current Police position on all of this is that they have insufficient evidence even to begin a formal investigation, much less with which to bring charges. I don't see where either the BBC or The Sun can go now. What I do see is that for anyone to give sufficient credence to ANY of the detail in the public arena to draw firm conclusions from it, or indeed to speculate further, is utterly pointless.

The BBC gets thousands of complaints about alleged misconduct by its high profile stars - the vast majority being without foundation. This complaint was one amongst thousands, so it is entirely feasible that the bbc was working its way towards this complaint and carefully examining the evidence.

It seems to me, although I'm getting very confused about it all, that the mother made a complaint to the BBC.
Apparently it was not followed up. Allegedly.

Beyond that my mind just begins to plait itself.

I was horrified enough at the fact that people felt forced to issue personal denials in the face of what seemed a genuine allegation.
Should it be the case that the allegation was malicious, it's even worse. I hope books will be thrown.

It’s all speculation but it seems entirely possible that this young person has what they see as a relationship of sorts with the tv personality. 3 years is a long time to have allegedly been involved in some kind of sexual activity to gratify another older, wealthier individual. It’s entirely possible the young person wants this arrangement to continue.

If what the mother and stepfather claim is true, the images were first made when the young person was 17, so legally below the age of consent. It’s easy to criticise the mother, it’s always easy to criticise mothers in these distressing situations. Those ‘some posters’ were quick to do so when discussing the Rochdale grooming gangs, or the Epstein abuse of young women.girls.

The key for me is the involvement of so many adult men in taking advantage/exploiting vulnerable young people. Tv/film/youth work/scouts/ wherever there are young people or children we find men ready to exploit them.

That may not be the case here…..

Deedaa

If the mother's version is true, and the "child" is now a hopeless drug addict because they spent all the money on drugs, you'd think they would be happy to name the celebrity and sell the story to the Sun to finance more drugs.

Not if the young man has been paid off by unknown presenter

We don’t know there were any phone calls and if the young person is 20 his mother has no right to be selling/giving stories to The Sun. No wonder her son is estranged.

Good point, Casdon. Son is not a minor.

(But according to Son, they were told.. If this is all true, what on earth was the mum up to, going against sons wishes at age 20?)

If a mother approached a newspaper with a major story related to their now adult child, the first thing the newspaper would do would be to corroborate the story with the person the allegations are being made on behalf of - aged 20.

If the Sun have not done that, whatever else transpires, then the book should be thrown at them.

If the mother's version is true, and the "child" is now a hopeless drug addict because they spent all the money on drugs, you'd think they would be happy to name the celebrity and sell the story to the Sun to finance more drugs.

Whitewavemark2

MayBee70

Wouldn’t it be great if Murdoch has got this completely wrong…

Yes, but I reckon he’s costed this in. They are content just to get at the bbc because they hate it so much.

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I was just saying this to DH….

So mother and offspring can now sort this out at home
It has been reported on the news that the parents and the offspring are estranged.

BlueBelle

Sounds like the two phone calls made by the unknown presenter to the young ‘person’ has worked then

My thoughts exactly.

Sounds like the two phone calls made by the unknown presenter to the young ‘person’ has worked then

So mother and offspring can now sort this out at home, which maybe they should have done before the mother decided to approach The Sun.

There's cases of real abuse and exploitation of young people - some, very young. This doesn't help their situations at all.

As Smileless2012 said, None of this should have been made public until someone's been charged.

There was me thinking that this young person would be further traumatised by all the media publicity, on top of being exploited... I must learn not to be so gullible.

However I didn't speculate on who the 'presenter' might have been (some appeared to know the identity) because I hate that kind of thing. My late ex was once the victim of similar speculation, he was entirely innocent, and it caused an awful lot of trauma and stress.

Look at all the social media speculation over the death of Nicola Bulley, the conspiracy theories, accusations of her partner's involvement... all the "something-doesn't-sit-right-with-me" comments, all the armchair detectives who were convinced there was a third-party - and some even physically visiting the crime scene.

I don't know if anyone on here remembers the 50s TV show, "Dragnet" and Sergeant Joe Friday's catch-phrase... all we want are the facts, ma'am, during police investigations. Quite.

Further (same web ref)

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We can now bring you some more details from the letter sent to the BBC earlier by a lawyer representing the young person at the centre of these allegations.

The lawyer says that press reporting amounted to an invasion of privacy, and criticises both the Sun and the BBC for not contacting their client.

"Nobody from the Sun newspaper appears to have made any attempt to contact our client prior to the publication of the allegations on Friday 6 July,” the lawyer writes.

The lawyer also claims in the letter that the mother and the young person are estranged

25Avalon

Apparently the Police are no longer investigating and the teenager says the mother is spouting rubbish!

To get back on topic to be specific 25Avalon it was the young mans lawyer:

Quote I player latest

"A lawyer representing the young person at the centre of the BBC presenter allegations has disputed their mother’s account of events
In a letter to the BBC, the lawyer says "the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish"
It says the young person sent the newspaper a denial on Friday, but it proceeded to publish "their inappropriate article"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66147560

Well that's quite complex isnt it as presumably the same could apply to Johnson, there was much speculation prior to his lockdown fines, much speculation about well a range of allegations.

maddyone

Smileless2012

None of this should have been made public until someone's been charged.

I agree. I think the police are looking into it now.

Would that apply to the ex FM of Scotland her husband and the accountant.Questioned, RELEASED No charges!! Forensic tent in their garden and boxes of household goods including a kettle removed.!
Still folk on here accusing them of all sorts.

Apparently the Police are no longer investigating and the teenager says the mother is spouting rubbish!

Sorry DaisyAnneReturns - I'm confused by that, what is it you think I don't know?

Blondiescot

Wyllow3

Galaxy I meant the young women doing *ex work which parents approved of and bought a house working on the Internet.

what interested me is that info from the lawyers for the young man concerned said he contacted the Sun *before publication of the *info from his mother and said it was not true*

Ahh, that was me who mentioned that - she's in her early 20s now, but was stripping when she was 18/19 and went onto OF soon after, as far as I know.

But you don't know.

Iam64

Channel 4 reporting now that the young person told The Sun last week his parents complaint wasn’t based in reality. I don’t know The Sun’s view on that

What a mess.

MayBee70

Wouldn’t it be great if Murdoch has got this completely wrong…

Yes, but I reckon he’s costed this in. They are content just to get at the bbc because they hate it so much.

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I don’t see *ex work as problem free. I accept any type of work is rarely problem free but whereas I sometimes felt stress at work, I didn’t live with the kind of anxieties the *ex workers I was involved with did.
I feel naive about Only Fans type sites, thanks BBC for information and analysis.
Social media has provided new opportunities for exploiters abd their victims

Thanks blondie, I was confused there.