BBC presenter allegations.

If your family were going through this sort of thing would you be logging onto GN to see what people were saying about it? Seriously?

I had hoped that now that Huw Edward's wife has had to go through the unbearable agony of naming her own husband as the "BBC presenter" at the heart of this case, that at least for the sake of her and the 5 adult children, the mass media and social media might now back off, and let whatever needs to happen next take it's course, without any continued feeding frenzy. Am I being naive? Despite the fact that the Police appear to be saying that there are no grounds for a criminal investigation, and the fact that Huw Edwards has been admitted to hospital on mental health grounds for the foreseeable future, we are still getting the "MH is no excuse" and "no smoke without fire" condemnations. Yes, he may well have been stupid to operate in a manner which has allowed his private sexual peccadillos to become public, not that we even know that for sure, but the man's life and that of his family are now in absolute tatters, from which I can see no recovery. I would imagine that the others who are allegedly involved will be be similarly traumatised, particularly when it is certain that the media will most certainly not have finished with them yet as regards the full pound of flesh. We have no control over the mass media, but can I make a heartfelt plea that in the name of basic humanity, at least we here on GN don't buy in to any continued tendency to keep following the tumbril, and to perhaps now just quietly draw a veil over it all? God only knows how the families must be suffering, and they deserve some space in which to try to start the healing process. So very, very sad for all involved.

Dickens

DaisyAnneReturns

Because none of us know quite why the mother of the first young person decided to approach The Sun, we are speculating based on what we think we probably would've done under the same circumstances Dickens

Most of you have been speculating all along Dickins and I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it. It really would be good if it stopped now until we a given more facts by those officially investigating this.

In fact, DaisyAnneReturns, my above comment about the young man's mother is the first and only comment I have personally made about her.

Additionally, I don't read The Sun. And haven't been tempted to do so since this story broke - any information I have about what that rag has published has been gleaned from other news outlets.

So "it would be really good" if you stopped making assumptions about me. Your underhand comment, "I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it" is deliberately provocative - and hectoring.

I have replied to other posts of yours that do not stand up.

All the information came from the Sun originally whether you read it or not. They did not produce one scintilla of evidence for any of it but you have not and do not question these illusory "facts".

DaisyAnneReturns

^Because none of us know quite why the mother of the first young person decided to approach The Sun, we are speculating based on what we think we probably would've done under the same circumstances^ Dickens

Most of you have been speculating all along Dickins and I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it. It really would be good if it stopped now until we a given more facts by those officially investigating this.

In fact, DaisyAnneReturns, my above comment about the young man's mother is the first and only comment I have personally made about her.

Additionally, I don't read The Sun. And haven't been tempted to do so since this story broke - any information I have about what that rag has published has been gleaned from other news outlets.

So "it would be really good" if you stopped making assumptions about me. Your underhand comment, "I have no doubt the Sun loved you for it" is deliberately provocative - and hectoring.

There are three important by elections next week - all in Tory held seats which they are likely to loose.

The Labour Party should take Uxbridge and South Ruislip and Selby and Ainstey and the Liberal Democrats are favourites to win Somerton and Frome.

The Sun, The Times, The Daily Express, The Daily Mail and The Telegraph do not want to focus attention on these by elections. They would rather focus your attention on some errant BBC presenter.

Ask yourself, Why????

Daisyanne why do you even ask!
I can think of many more people, less well known, who deserve our sympathy. Hew has a loving family who will support him.
Although he's all over the news now, he'll soon be forgotten by the media circus

Foxygloves

DaisyAnneReturns

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

Why the hell should he have any such "stain"?

Surely the public knowledge of his sleazy, and reprehensible -granted, not illegal - but by any standards immoral behaviour constitutes a stain on his character - what character he has left.

So where have you seen these "facts" about his "immorality"? The only thing we know is that nothing illegal has happened.

We have had someone on here saying he has resigned - as a fact. It's not true.

We have had people suggest his illness is a cover-up: how can they possibly reach that conclusion.

Now you repeat things that the Sun said were facts - when their reporting was so obviously, at the very least, disingenuous.

We have people saying "he has been named". No he hasn't. He named himself via his wife.

And then there is the person who thinks she is in the majority and asks how anyone could not know who it was? One in six people knew, we were told. That means 83% didn't. Just because you are loud on these boards does not make you part of the majority.

And now we have the "he's too rich" argument. Just as we once had the "she's too beautiful" girl pointed to as a witch.

Why can you not ask yourself "do I actually know this to be true" before you go into print with what may well be libel.

Again am not falling for anything.

Varian, my response looks snippy, that wasn’t my intention, as Whitewave says, it’s not the first time either

I think there is a lot of truth in that, varian.

I also know that the difference between 'not enough evidence' and 'no crime has been committed' is huge. Let's not forget that drug addicts can make unreliable witnesses, and that they need a lot of money to fund their lifestyles. There are many 'unsaids' in all of this.

And yes, Galaxy, the wider issues surrounding this sorry case are in desperate need of investigation.

Varian, you’re not the first to suggestthat the coverage has clouded media reporting of the awful state of our country as a result of poor government

Yes - but how often does this happen? Over and over and over again.

People fall for it every time.

AGAA4 I read there are 5 children aged between 18 and 24. Vicky Flind is reported as a tv editor/producer. Hopefully, they can give each other much needed support

Whitewavemark2

There was no crime committed.

HW has suffered from mental health issues for decades.

The Sun has wound the British public up and set them going.

Murdoch’s agenda is to get at the bbc. We know that he wants it shut down.

It was obvious from the start, but people tried hard to make so much more of a sad situation.

The Sun is trash, as is so much if our media.

We deserve better.

I do wonder whether to excessive prominence given to this story over the last week has been a deliberate diversion from the rightwing media who do not want public attention on the manifest failures of this appalling Tory government- chaos, corruption and gross incompetence.

Very poor economic record, failure to control decline in UK industry, education, and the NHS.,

Inability to deal ,with refugees humanely and efficiently, inability to resolve the tensions in Northern Ireland caused by Brexit, inability to provide decent housing, inability to address crime, inability to curb the excesses of the greedy capitalists who borrow to pay dividends to shareholders and obscenely high pay for executives rather than invest in infrastructure, while our rivers and beaches are drenched in sewage..

Surely these failures should be top of the nes agenda, not the misdemeanors of Huw Edwars?

I feel very sorry for his family. He will be in hospital for the 'foreseeable future' according to his wife while they will have to deal with the backlash from what he has done.

I am also able to discuss the behaviour of certain papers with regards to young people, excitedly counting down to their 16th birthday for example, almost as if the issue has nothing to do with love of the BBC or hatred of the sun, but rather much more complex societal issues.

Oh my God. Many of us are quite able to discuss the issues of men buying sexual images from much younger people without being influenced by the sun. I have been doing it for years. I presume people dont actually understand what site they are on.

I’ve always liked Huw Edwards, but felt that there was a certain sadness about him. So difficult for all concerned, although the mother who reported it to the Sun has little sympathy from me. Why do that? I also feel that MH is often used as an excuse when improper behaviour comes to light.

Now you aren’t allowed to withdraw from public life. People will be endlessly speculating about what you did. Photographers and members if the public will be waiting for you on street corners, or stalking you.
The same thing will probably happen to the person taking the money and supplying the photos.
You are right, Molly, and that is another area where there should be steps taken to make improvements. People should have a right to privacy if they are not harming others. It gets trickier when their living is earned by fame, of course, but there is a huge difference between what interests the public and what is in the public interest.

Agree Whitewave.

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

No amount of money can clear your conscience.

There was no crime committed.

HW has suffered from mental health issues for decades.

The Sun has wound the British public up and set them going.

Murdoch’s agenda is to get at the bbc. We know that he wants it shut down.

It was obvious from the start, but people tried hard to make so much more of a sad situation.

The Sun is trash, as is so much if our media.

We deserve better.

His life is ruined because he made seriously bad choices - not because he suffers with depression

True. Kandinsky. He’s made some bad choices.
In days gone by it would have been explained as “withdrawing from public life, embarrassed by his/her/your actions being made public” even if the actions were not criminal. Do we know about that yet?
Now you aren’t allowed to withdraw from public life. People will be endlessly speculating about what you did. Photographers and members if the public will be waiting for you on street corners, or stalking you.
The same thing will probably happen to the person taking the money and supplying the photos.

Germanshepherdsmum

Anniebach

Some cannot accept depression is a serious illness GSM

You and I know that it is Annie. Therefore I hate to see it used as an excuse or a shield. It is being found out that has caused him to be hospitalised and I don’t accept depression as an excuse for his behaviour. Depression doesn’t cause a married heterosexual man to indulge in this behaviour.

That’s what Dr David Starkey said on TV tonight. He said it was very similar to the Philip Schofield case and that Huw Edwards in his opinion was struggling with his sexuality. They hurried to shush him up. 🤫

DaisyAnneReturns

Grammaretto

I don't think we need be too sorry for him. It's a stain on his character but at 61 and with plenty of money, he can retire to the hills.

Why the hell should he have any such "stain"?

Surely the public knowledge of his sleazy, and reprehensible -granted, not illegal - but by any standards immoral behaviour constitutes a stain on his character - what character he has left.