Running down the NHS so it has to be privatised?

I think this government is already running the NHS down and even after an election Labour will do the same with Starmer taking Labour more to the right.
Impossible to get an NHS dentist now.

An excellent comment! The hysteria that we are encouraged to believe about ‘privatisation’ is to no one’s benefit. We do indeed need to look at other models of healthcare that are getting it right! I do not believe that the Labour Party is the answer to many of the country’s problems, let alone the NHS. Remember PFI? (Blair government). Often an expensive mess! A cross party, or even Royal, Commission should be established to examine this, preferably one that will not take a decade to do so! It would also be helpful if the nation as a whole could take better care of its health. So many severe illnesses which cost the health service so dear, are lifestyle induced. Whatever happens, change must come soon as we can’t keep being encouraged to worship at the shrine of an institution which is costing us so much yet failing us so badly.

there is no intention of any political party to privatise the NHS, whatever that might mean. We are one of many countries providing a free public health service to their inhabitants and there are many and various waysof doing this.

When public helath services are ranked, we come seventh. The things we are worse at are giving patients access to resources and the quality of our health outcomes. the two real basics of care.

I thinkwe need to have a damn good look at the ways other countries do the same job better and learn from them.

The way rises in both sectors are supposed to come from existing funds.

All wrong. Consequences obvious and - guilt tripping the doctors and teachers, pressure put on us to oppose pay rises as we know the result.

The pay review bodies were set up when inflation was running around 2.5% pa and everything has changed.

Bring on the GE. Extra funds have to come from outside, its clear.

Echo should read Who

Mr.Starmer has said that he would abide by the pay review body, which is what this Government has done.

I listened to the Education Secretary being interviewed this morning and she said more then once that Head Teachers wouldn’t have to fund the pay rise from existing budgets.

Echo has said that the NHS will have to fund the pay rises from their existing budgets?

Not supporting them just wanting to be accurate.

Exactly ,Maremia.

Don't give up. General Election next year. Three hopefully 'bye bye' elections next week. Up to each and every one of us to make the best use of the ballot box, every time we have the chance.