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Does any one know anything about the Northern Research Group?

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nanna8 Mon 17-Jul-23 10:57:20

That’s history for you isn’t it ? I was taught from a Protestant Anglo Saxon bias and bias it was. When we left UK I continued to study history- the view of European and British history , particularly wartime events, is totally different depending where you live. The British don’t come out too well.

M0nica Sun 16-Jul-23 14:25:37

Freya Wikipedia is a reliable source on a lot of subjects, but like any source, whether online, on paper, or even papyrusor written on stone, you need to look at the source and make a reasonable attempt to assess its, validity. It is called 'Fact checking'

If I look up the Victorian author 'Mrs Oliphant' I can be reasonably certain the information contained in her profile is accurate, partly because i know something about her life, but also, because she is not an object of general interest and is not controversial in any way.

Were I looking up someone political 'Nigel Farage', for example. I know that his profile could be written by someone who hero worshiped him or who holds him in cocntempt or is deliberately subvesive, so I would look at the profile but very thoroughly fact check it.

There is nothing new in this. My personal research interests sometimes find me reading the Domesday Book, or Anglo-Saxon Chronicles and one has to bring the same critical faculty to them as well, asking who is writing them, why, what message were they wanting to convey, how accurate are the contents.
Nothing changes

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 16-Jul-23 14:17:15

This goes into more detail:

news.sky.com/story/westminster-accounts-powerful-group-of-tory-mps-scrutinised-by-expenses-watchdog-after-sky-news-investigation-12919851

Freya5 Sun 16-Jul-23 09:06:50

Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia. As a user-generated source, it can be edited by anyone at any time, and any information it contains at a particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or simply incorrect.
en.wikipedia.org › wiki
Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source

Freya5 Sun 16-Jul-23 09:04:55

M0nica

Try these two sites
northernresearchgroup.uk/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Research_Group

Wikipedia, where anyone can change the direction of thought. Really not a legitimate source.

Freya5 Sun 16-Jul-23 09:02:17

MaizieD

M0nica

I think the group was originally set up by that swathe of Conservative MPs that won northern seats in the last election.

Depressing how quickly this group was corrupted.

They were corrupt to start with, MOnica. It was an essential requirement for selection as a tory candidate in Johnson's ' get brexit done' tory party.

Maligning individuals as corrupt , just because they belong to the Tory party. Really. What proof do you have,come on let's see it. Disgusting.

Maremia Sun 16-Jul-23 08:48:04

This is a new to me story, which I will now watch with interest. Hope this expenses watchdog has the stamina to succeed.

MaizieD Sun 16-Jul-23 07:41:28

M0nica

I think the group was originally set up by that swathe of Conservative MPs that won northern seats in the last election.

Depressing how quickly this group was corrupted.

They were corrupt to start with, MOnica. It was an essential requirement for selection as a tory candidate in Johnson's ' get brexit done' tory party.

M0nica Sun 16-Jul-23 05:55:55

I think the group was originally set up by that swathe of Conservative MPs that won northern seats in the last election.

Depressing how quickly this group was corrupted.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 16-Jul-23 00:16:26

Grantanow

It's just another Tory fringe group like the European Research Group. 'Research' may be a misnomer as they seem to have made up their minds.

It's being investigated by the expenses watchdog but there seems to be very little information. I will try and see if there is anything on the government website tomorrow.

What I heard was that over 20 Tory MPs authorised public money be spent in a way that ended up funding a private company, and then the private company ended up paying a donation to the exact same MPs.

It seems to have been drowned off the front pages over the last few days. Considering what we have been told we can't pay for, I do wonder where the money's come from and whether it's come from the leveling up fund? I really don't know, but it sounds very iffy.

DaisyAnneReturns Sat 15-Jul-23 23:54:51

M0nica

Try these two sites
northernresearchgroup.uk/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Research_Group

Thanks M0nica

Grantanow Sat 15-Jul-23 23:13:52

It's just another Tory fringe group like the European Research Group. 'Research' may be a misnomer as they seem to have made up their minds.

M0nica Sat 15-Jul-23 18:13:44

Try these two sites
northernresearchgroup.uk/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Research_Group

DiamondLily Sat 15-Jul-23 17:43:15

Thanks. Found it now. 🙂

DaisyAnneReturns Sat 15-Jul-23 17:37:23

Sorry about that DiamondLily. I'll put it below but I think it's the Mail online which won't have helped.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12294817/Parliaments-expenses-watchdog-probes-Northern-Research-Group-Tory-MPs.html

DiamondLily Sat 15-Jul-23 17:05:40

Can't find anything from the DM. Have you got a link? 🙂

DaisyAnneReturns Sat 15-Jul-23 16:34:46

Parliament's expenses watchdog probes Northern Research Group of Tory MPs after 22 of its members divert taxpayers' cash into its coffers 'before receiving donations from a broadband firm'

This headline is from the Daily Mail.