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The Refugee Ship

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Dickens Tue 18-Jul-23 15:26:49

Riverwalk

Germanshepherdsmum

Yes I’m familiar with that GG. They are all to be men. My son lives in the next village. There is considerable and genuine fear of hundreds of single male asylum seekers with nothing to do roaming around the rural area. The local housing market is absolutely dead as a consequence of this plan. I am very much in favour of a facility which detains people until their identity is established and their claim to asylum determined - so for me the boat is an excellent facility.

They are not to be 'detained' as far as I understand it.

There is considerable and genuine fear of hundreds of single male asylum seekers with nothing to do roaming around the rural area.

That is a justifiable concern. It only needs one 'incident' to cause a huge problem.

And I'm going to guess that among those young men wandering around with absolutely nothing to do - there will be those that would prefer to be working... as one AS some time ago now said when he was being interviewed. Can't remember exactly what he said but it was along the lines of having a sense of 'purpose' when he got up in the morning.

It's one thing if you have a time-frame, but if faced with the prospect of waiting possibly months / years, it's a very unhealthy state of affairs, for everyone. Including the locals.

As for the wider crisis and the EU - the bloc is dealing with the biggest refugee crisis since WW2 and its (the EU) response still appears to be at the "research" stage in terms of policy decisions. But that's just my perception. As a 'Remainer', I have to say I am critical... there does not seem to be a 'uniform' system.

PinkCosmos Tue 18-Jul-23 15:26:25

They need to take on more staff to process the claims. Is there any reason they can't do this? Surely it would save money in the long run.

I admit I don't know all the ins and outs of the asylum system but surely this is the most obvious solution.

I agree with the barges. I have heard that hotels that have previously housed asylum seekers have been boycotted by previous visitors, particularly the ones who have had weddings cancelled by the hotel.

We had asylum seekers housed nearby in a large hotel in a small village. They were all young men. They put on a private bus for them so that they could go into the nearest main town by every day. Meanwhile, the local bus service in the area is terrible and has been cut back over the last few years.

I can understand why local people are frustrated with all of this.

Sago Tue 18-Jul-23 15:26:09

Why on earth should we be made to feel guilty about due diligence?

Many of these men are deliberately arriving without papers, knowing the processing can take months, they are fed, housed, clothed and then disappear.

Who and where are they?

Over 30 absconded in a week from a facility near us.

If they are to be housed on this barge until we know who they are then I think it’s an excellent idea.

Rosalyn69 Tue 18-Jul-23 15:05:07

There does seem to be more single men coming over here than women and families. It bothers me a lot. What are we supposed to do with them all?

Casdon Tue 18-Jul-23 14:44:35

timetogo2016

I can`t understand why they are even in this country,and it is very worrying that they are all men ?.
It is concerning imo.

They aren’t all men, the ship will accommodate men only but there are women and children at some of the other detention centres.

timetogo2016 Tue 18-Jul-23 14:42:41

I can`t understand why they are even in this country,and it is very worrying that they are all men ?.
It is concerning imo.

Casdon Tue 18-Jul-23 14:41:03

They will be non detained at Portland as at the other sites.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-accommodation-factsheets/factsheet-asylum-accommodation-on-a-vessel-in-portland-port-accessible

Riverwalk Tue 18-Jul-23 14:37:44

I don't know the mechanics, nor the law regarding detaining refugees, but the barge has to be rigged up to power supplies and sewerage services so it's likely to be in dock.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 18-Jul-23 14:29:59

Those in the former barracks won’t be unfortunately, but I would have thought those on the ship will be unless daily ferries are going to be provided for them (I hope not)..

It’s so easy for unknown people to just disappear if not detained and work/be enslaved in the black economy. If the authorities don’t know who they are how can they search for them?

Riverwalk Tue 18-Jul-23 14:20:39

Germanshepherdsmum

Yes I’m familiar with that GG. They are all to be men. My son lives in the next village. There is considerable and genuine fear of hundreds of single male asylum seekers with nothing to do roaming around the rural area. The local housing market is absolutely dead as a consequence of this plan. I am very much in favour of a facility which detains people until their identity is established and their claim to asylum determined - so for me the boat is an excellent facility.

They are not to be 'detained' as far as I understand it.

Iam64 Tue 18-Jul-23 14:17:45

I’m unhappy about hotels as well. No pleasing me as I do agree, we need to know who and where asylum seekers are.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 18-Jul-23 14:14:24

Yes I’m familiar with that GG. They are all to be men. My son lives in the next village. There is considerable and genuine fear of hundreds of single male asylum seekers with nothing to do roaming around the rural area. The local housing market is absolutely dead as a consequence of this plan. I am very much in favour of a facility which detains people until their identity is established and their claim to asylum determined - so for me the boat is an excellent facility.

Casdon Tue 18-Jul-23 14:12:49

How long they need to speed up the paperwork is a moot point.
committees.parliament.uk/publications/33804/documents/184602/default/
There are 92,000 applications over a year old according to this report.
I believe that it’s a political choice to keep high numbers of unprocessed asylum seekers, designed to whip up a frenzy of concern because they are being put into centres in communities and housed highly visibly in floating portakabins.
It’s not the fault of Hone Office staff - they need more support.

Iam64 Tue 18-Jul-23 14:12:33

It’s an international problem. We need to speed our assessment process. I can’t support putting vulnerable people seeking refuge into such totally inappropriate ‘accommodation’

GrannyGravy13 Tue 18-Jul-23 13:59:19

The Dutch town if Velsen has a converted barge housing 1,000 migrants, the U.K.’s one is expected to hold 500.

It’s not ideal, but hostel’s are full, they have started to move some refugees into a disused military base in my County.

Until such time as the Home Office speeds up the paperwork of those seeking asylum they have to be housed somewhere.

There is a shortage of affordable housing in the U.K.

Ilovecheese Tue 18-Jul-23 13:56:50

Oh it is true all right.

Dickens Tue 18-Jul-23 13:56:42

???

MerylStreep Tue 18-Jul-23 13:56:36

nanna8
Taking the emotions out of it: the uk is running out of beds.
There has been a lot of hostility from locals when the government wants to rent a hotel.

nanna8 Tue 18-Jul-23 13:52:15

I couldn’t believe this. Tell me it isn’t true. Back to the 18 th century.