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A vision for the future.

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DaisyAnneReturns Wed 19-Jul-23 14:30:33

Tony Blair's Future of Britain conference has come round yet again. I'll try and give you the links to each of the speakers. This first one is Tony Blair speaking to Kier Starmer.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6AXspycKyo&list=PLd9TfSxRj7iL1t8f3_0SGwu0Q8ROxKfoY&index=1

icanhandthemback Sun 23-Jul-23 15:07:10

I can't stand Tony Blair but regardless of what he did with the war, it doesn't mean he won't ever have another good idea for the rest of his life. The Sure Start programme he set up, the introduction of learning through play, etc for primary school children was very successful so whatever political party you support, if an idea is good, it is worth putting it out there in the hope you can get your Party to consider it.

icanhandthemback Sun 23-Jul-23 15:31:08

...we need to empower them and allow them to do what they came to do which is teach.

That hooked me!

It is interesting that they are using technology that tracks how your mind works because that is one of the ways used to detect ADHD. Imagine not having to fight the school for help in detecting where the system is going wrong for your child when they show signs of otherwise being intelligent or can read and write so there can't be anything wrong. This sort of thing would have helped my son who was only discovered to have a different learning approach to the way he was taught. At Year 9 he was getting the same SAT's levels as he got at Year 6 when he was actually really good at the subject. Now he's not at school and in charge of his own learning, it is amazing what he has achieved. It certainly looks like revolutionary technology we should be exploring but it is also a sales pitch so I am cautious.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 23-Jul-23 16:52:06

The great thing about the "not for profit" guy is that he can see this as a way of educating the world. This speaker said that the AI could "see" where someone who got well above average marks, had a gap in their knowledge, even though they would have "passed" under the current marking system.

He quoted a situation where the exam was an end-of-semester/end-of-term test on what they were learning during that period. His example was science, but the gap was in previously taught maths - trigonometry in this instance - studied in earlier years but not fully comprehended or remembered. That gap could be filled for that student by the AI, while others would have their own needs met or extended learning undertaken. This would mean that knowledge, as opposed to passing tests, could be raised for everyone.

This was certainly not a "teacherless" system. The teacher would be central. The saving estimated was six teaching hours per week.

SpringsEternal Sun 23-Jul-23 18:05:43

Thank you, Daisy Anne . I've just finished work, so I'll look/listen later. I feel enthusiastic and excited about the prospect of some radical new approaches in the future. I think most of our organisations and institutions need a thorough overhaul, including politics. Roll on a less combative, more collaborate approach. Plus more creative thinking.

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Jul-23 18:12:31

Thank you DaisyAnneReturns I just don't have the energy to respond but was glad to read the thinking on bits and pieces.
The fact that someone like Blair isnt liked (and I'm with folk on Iraq, I left the Party at that point only to rejoin later in austerity) cant to me de-value to the point of "well I just won't listen at all".

Things are so bad we need "blue sky thinking" as to the future.

Jaye53 Sun 23-Jul-23 18:15:25

So agree EEjit.

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 23-Jul-23 19:50:49

Where the future of health is concerned, I suggest those interested watch the video as there are tables and charts which add to the picture that I couldn't replicate here.

Wyllow, I agree. Getting bogged down in the past will stop us from making the best of the future. Each year I find the Conference worth watching (I still haven't watched all of Conference 2023!) as these people leading the field in their area definitely raise everyone's spirit.

JPB123 Sun 23-Jul-23 20:37:48

DaisyAnneReturns

Do watch them when you have time icanhandthemback, there are two on the future of education.

I find it inspiring when someone in the thick of it explains, but very saddening to hear private education in various countries is well ahead. However, once state/public education expands on those who have already adopted it, it could be a great leveller.

The idea of personalised "gap filling" particularly appeals to me as someone who changed schools often, at a time when the curriculum was not the "across the board" set one it is now.

The Future of Health Care ones are also enlightening.

Who are you to tell us what to watch?

LucyW Sun 23-Jul-23 20:54:53

Tony Blair should hang his head in shame for the lives of service personnel lost in the war he took us into. My late husband was a military man to his core and Tony Blair was despised by everyone we knew. I would not believe a word that came out of his mouth.

Marg75 Sun 23-Jul-23 21:13:28

LucyW I agree with you wholeheartedly.

icanhandthemback Sun 23-Jul-23 21:23:49

I've signed up for the Research Programme. It is interesting to hear Sir John Bell talking about things like the lack of imaging, etc. Currently, before imaging, you are referred to a Muskoskeletal Clinic who will refer you to a Physio who will fiddle about for a period of time. For 2 of my children I have been adamant that they should not be fiddling about without knowing exactly what is wrong because of the damage that could be done with their genetic condition. Each time the Physio has been most put out because they know what is wrong. Sadly, each time, they have been wrong. Fortunately no harm has been done but a lot of time was wasted. They don't present like the average patient, they look like horses but are actually Zebras.
We have the technology, let's invest in it and use it!

DaisyAnneReturns Sun 23-Jul-23 21:47:58

I do like hearing the ideas about more localised testing. We have invested so much less in these machines than other countries. I have a vision of much smaller hospitals in the future from what they are saying, too.

Where did you find the sign up for the Research programme icanhandthemback? I think I was getting brain overload by that point. He said they were nearly full, didn't he.

Sawsage2 Sun 23-Jul-23 21:49:20

EEjit. Totally agree with you.smile

Grantanow Sun 23-Jul-23 22:33:47

I think it important to listen to and consider what anyone with a spark of intelligence has to say regardless of opinions about their moral position or history.

icanhandthemback Sun 23-Jul-23 23:33:41

DaisyAnneReturns

study.ourfuturehealth.org.uk/welcome?r=community

You can sign up here.

Gundy Mon 24-Jul-23 03:36:05

What’s scarier than Tony Blair or any politician is AI‼️ Proceed with caution.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 24-Jul-23 08:14:11

icanhandthemback

DaisyAnneReturns

study.ourfuturehealth.org.uk/welcome?r=community

You can sign up here.

Thank you icanhandthemback.

Lilyflower Mon 24-Jul-23 08:28:32

I think 'the brightest and best' people who haven't an ounce of common sense and who think they are better than the rest of we poor mortals are the ones who make the most mischief. Their arrogance has to be seen to be believed.
ULEZ
15 minute walking cities
No meat, sugar, alcohol, lawns, cars, gas boilers, sweeteners to name a few recent demonisations
War on the motorist
Covid Lockdown
ER, BLM, WEF, WHO.
Brightest and best the lot of them.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 24-Jul-23 08:50:12

I'm setting my self the target of watching either Fixing our Food Environment (Richard Dimbleby) or Defence and the Future of NATO (Ben Wallace) next. Ben Wallace had just resigned as Secretary of State for Defence the weekend before the conference. I hope that talk of that doesn't squeeze out his thinking on defence.

I'll be interested to hear if anyone has watched either of these and what you've taken away from them.

Elegran Mon 24-Jul-23 09:05:02

To those who say they won't watch listen to anything Tony Blair says, or who ask "Who are you to tell us who to watch?" - firstly, it isn't "what Tony blair says" it is what a lot of people who are successful and knowledgeable in their own fields are not only saying BUT DOING, Blair is just facilitating them getting together to exchange news and pass on what they have learnt.

Secondy, the OP is someone who has had access to all this information and is passing on to the rest of us how to easily find it ourselves. Giving or receiving access to genuine information is never a waste of time or an imposition. Once you have absorbed it you are free to disagree with the speaker's conclusions. Closing your mind to even the link to people who have tried something new and succeeded with it is being a Luddite, and similar to a prehistoric cave-dweller refusing to consider copying that newfangled round thing that clever-clogs in the cave next door calls a "wheel"

choughdancer Mon 24-Jul-23 09:12:57

Elegran

To those who say they won't watch listen to anything Tony Blair says, or who ask "Who are you to tell us who to watch?" - firstly, it isn't "what Tony blair says" it is what a lot of people who are successful and knowledgeable in their own fields are not only saying BUT DOING, Blair is just facilitating them getting together to exchange news and pass on what they have learnt.

Secondy, the OP is someone who has had access to all this information and is passing on to the rest of us how to easily find it ourselves. Giving or receiving access to genuine information is never a waste of time or an imposition. Once you have absorbed it you are free to disagree with the speaker's conclusions. Closing your mind to even the link to people who have tried something new and succeeded with it is being a Luddite, and similar to a prehistoric cave-dweller refusing to consider copying that newfangled round thing that clever-clogs in the cave next door calls a "wheel"

Well said Elegran!

SpringsEternal Mon 24-Jul-23 09:56:26

Yep, well said, Elegran!

Grantanow Mon 24-Jul-23 11:08:47

Those who run down Blair because of Iraq should remember he was re-elected after Iraq for the third time. Domestic policies are what matter to voters. The rubbishing of Labour's domestic achievements under Blair by the Left under Corbyn which weaponised Iraq against him was a disgrace and did Labour no good with the voters. Starmer is on track for a significant Labour victory and I hope he succeeds otherwise we may as well turn out the lights.

icanhandthemback Mon 24-Jul-23 11:52:31

Well put, Elegran.

Gundy, AI can be a force for greater good when used in certain areas. What we need is a good legislative framework to ensure that it is only used for that purpose. I am not saying that would be easy but where it could help us with our health and learning, it would be a shame not to facilitate it.

Grany Mon 24-Jul-23 20:54:02

Why is Tony Blair talking about the NHS

Dr Bob Gill explains

m.youtube.com/watch?v=WzejhelMOn0