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Heartbreak in the Yemen

(58 Posts)
Wyllow3 Wed 26-Jul-23 22:23:27

It's almost unbearable to watch the news. the starving children.

Aid has been cut because of Ukraine, and Yemen is called "the forgotten war".

What can be done?

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Jul-23 11:40:56

If we intervene militarily we make matters worse.

maddyone Sun 30-Jul-23 11:51:10

It’s a very sad situation, and been going on for eight years. I’m not even sure what they’re fighting for and I think that’s the problem. People don’t understand the why, the what, and the wherefore. And why it’s going on so long. With Ukraine people see a clear aggressor and an invasion. And an articulate and charismatic leader begging for help. Plus we get regular updates on Ukraine via the media, whereas we tend to get only occasional updates from Yemen.

maddyone Sun 30-Jul-23 11:55:32

I think Witzendmakes extremely valid points about corruption. It’s something we can barely comprehend, asking for bribes before essential supplies are released. This is indeed a problem in many third world countries.

cleo33 Sun 30-Jul-23 12:20:43

If my source is correct the UK pledged £88 million to Yemen for 22/23

MerylStreep Sun 30-Jul-23 12:33:04

merlotgran

These poor people don’t have the money to flee and become refugees in a safer country like the Syrians. I wonder if this could be an opportunity for military intervention by the West in order to support humanitarian aid as Russia now has its hands tied in Ukraine?

The only flaw I can see in that suggestion is: the west are supplying the arms to Saudi who are in turn using them to kill the Yemenis.

sandelf Sun 30-Jul-23 12:37:38

I would strongly advise we do not help ANY faction. It is a generations long factional (corrupt and complicated) situation of which we are told only the very simplest messages. They all want our money and support and it NEVER (seen this over the last 50 years) helps.

LovesBach Sun 30-Jul-23 13:07:13

Years ago on the evening news a woman slowly lowered her son, aged about ten, to the ground. He had just drawn his last breath as we watched, dead from starvation. My son, aged ten, was sitting next to me on the sofa, well fed, healthy, safe and loved, and also horrified, and yet all these years later this pitiful suffering of the innocents goes on. I wish man would learn that you can't eat money, and violence and fighting simply create more of the same, into a bleak future.

Flakesdayout Sun 30-Jul-23 13:07:25

Why cant everyone just be nice to one another. Kindness does not hurt, I really do despair.

Nannashirlz Sun 30-Jul-23 13:19:54

Most of the aid that is offered never gets through and to help the ppl we should help them with child birth then maybe so many wouldn’t die of starvation but these ppl have large families knowing that they have no money. Sounds harsh but it’s the truth we have kids here also struggling for food. We a little island we can’t bail everyone out

LibbyFionn29 Sun 30-Jul-23 13:37:05

Hatred and intolerance are rife in the west also.
The wealthy elite in UK dont appear to be concerned with the poverty here, and many attend church.

Farzanah Sun 30-Jul-23 13:37:45

The U.K. may not be involved in such devastating wars, but it’s interesting to consider that the U.K. is the second largest exporter of “defence arms” in the world after the USA, and forms a huge part of our GDP.

Milest0ne Sun 30-Jul-23 13:57:25

Callistemon21

We know it's happening and it is heartbreaking

The UK has sent about £1 billion of aid over the past 7 or 8 years but how much aid gets through and how much ends up into the wrong hands?

Oh God. Why do men need to fight?! Nothing changes. The poor suffer. Women and children mostly. Over my life I seem to have seen the same sad stories over and over in various parts of the world.
Yes, why?
The poor women struggling, made pregnant time and again only to see their children starve and die, get injured, lose limbs, suffer.
I'm sure they do not want to be bringing one child after another into the world only to see this happen.

It makes me angry to see so many suffering children. Snipers aiming at children was in one report
. Why are so many children being born.? The men should show some responsibility. Vasectomies and sewing kits for their trousers come to mind. Feed the children and mothers but not the men.

Farzanah Sun 30-Jul-23 14:21:27

It’s easy to be judgmental about poor people suffering the ravages of war through no fault of their own, and opining about improved contraception, from the comfort of our armchairs in our cosy homes.

Perhaps if they lived in peace and security with the advantages that we have, they would not have so many kids because they wouldn’t be murdered.

Perhaps in an ideal world the U.K. and others wouldn’t be selling arms that kill and maim children.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jul-23 14:33:38

"Perhaps in an ideal world the U.K. and others wouldn’t be selling arms that kill and maim children."

Well said Farzanah.

That, our country CAN do something about.

The reports do break your heart.

MerylStreep Sun 30-Jul-23 14:50:23

Farzanah
Very true, but we don’t live in an ideal world, do we?
What would the people who work in the arms industry do if it all stopped tomorrow. Very difficult dilemma for all those involved.

Milest0ne Sun 30-Jul-23 15:00:55

Historically , large families have been produced to work the land or look after parents in their old age, but as CANNON FODDER. ???? Aid needs to include education not just food.
Every child by right should be wanted, loved, fed ,clothed housed and educated. If the parents can't provide that why do they expect other people to provide it?

Farzanah Sun 30-Jul-23 15:02:21

Yes indeed MerylStreep. It’s easy to look at some world problems in a simplistic way but there’s always the bigger picture.

If we didn’t have our lucrative arms trade then our standard of living would be markedly reduced, along with our GDP.

I just wish that people didn’t offer simplistic and smug solutions, from a position of seeming ignorance.

Farzanah Sun 30-Jul-23 15:03:28

I fear you’ve totally missed my point Miles.

Freya5 Sun 30-Jul-23 15:44:13

Flakesdayout

Why cant everyone just be nice to one another. Kindness does not hurt, I really do despair.

I'm afraid kindness will not help here. As usual neither side cares a damn about the poor people in between. Ousting, backed by Iran, an internationally recognised government, is not the way to a peaceful life for anyone.

Gundy Sun 30-Jul-23 17:18:28

The Russian blockade of grain will predominantly affect Africa which relies on Ukranian wheat (the “bread basket” of the world), and other countries too.

Yemen’s civil war does not have the spotlight of the world on it. The pain and suffering of children is such a tragedy.

With Putin’s objective to take over as many countries in Africa as possible, there’s going to be a red wave domino effect, I believe.

There’s a special place in hell for Putin.
USA Gundy

Bijou Sun 30-Jul-23 18:33:43

It seems that so many countries are at war now that the media cannot report on them all

MerylStreep Sun 30-Jul-23 18:38:18

Gundy
Russia hasn’t got the money to take over countries in Africa, and, China comes first.

Witzend Sun 30-Jul-23 18:47:12

maddyone

I think Witzendmakes extremely valid points about corruption. It’s something we can barely comprehend, asking for bribes before essential supplies are released. This is indeed a problem in many third world countries.

Another thing dd told me about was in Ethiopia, where severe drought and famine had been succeeded by flooding rains which swept cholera into the region she was dealing with. She saw people literally dying before her eyes, but for far too long the local govt. insisted that it was just ‘seasonal diarrhoea’. She busted guts to find a water truck, get it fixed (it wasn’t driveable) and filled with clean water in order to supply the area - all with zero help or cooperation from local officialdom.

She was also incandescent over the uselessness of a global, supposedly sainted organisation, well known in the sector for paying higher salaries than anyone else, who had only to put a load of urgently needed plastic jerrycans in a truck and drive them from A to B, and they couldn’t even get that right.
I’ve never given any money to that lot ever since.

songstress60 Sun 30-Jul-23 19:25:34

We have enough poverty and deprivation in UK, so I don't concern myself with matters abroad. There are plenty of kids going to school without meals. CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME

merlotgran Sun 30-Jul-23 19:28:33

songstress60

We have enough poverty and deprivation in UK, so I don't concern myself with matters abroad. There are plenty of kids going to school without meals. CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME

Words fail me!