Politicians happy to sacrifice strategies on climate change

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We can hope that the messaging will be clearer so that people are not fooled into thinking that they would be liable for an ULEZ charge when the vast majority won't. (Including the man in Uxbridge with a Tesla on the drive).
It is hard to imagine "the people" voting against ULEZ if they live in the shires.
I suspect people are actually more concerned about air quality and climate change than the Government thinks.

I have been puzzling this thread.

Now I realise why I was confused.
Surely MPs are supposed to serve the people, not the other way around.
The people vote against UL:EZ so none of that. Or a variation.

If people on low wages decide that charges such as the ULEZ arent what they want to vote for then that is going to be interesting.

Galaxy

It's a bugger when people use their democratic vote in a way we dont like it.

Care to elucidate?

It's a bugger when people use their democratic vote in a way we dont like it.

In a democracy of the kind we have it is necessary that politicians persuade voters of the right thing to do. There is no other way forward. Being deceptive always comes home to roost because the voters are not complete fools. At least, I hope that's the way it works.

The only way we're going to get people out of their cars is to provide good, reasonably priced, integrated public transport. Until that happens there's little chance of change. The only agency that can do that is the government. This government won't do it because the tories are ideologically opposed to providing public services. Labour is terrified of appearing to be spendthrift, so don't seem to be making public transport provision a policy. Though they might change once in power...
In the meantime, suggestions to cut down car use, like 15 minute cities, are spun as a conspiracy to trap everyone in their own localities...

Freya5

Wish we could give a thumbs up, or down on this very divisive subject. A gas guzzling car, many don't have a choice, public transport decimated in rural areas, because hey ho, cars became king. What should we do, 20 minute walk to bus stop, poor mobility. Kids can't get into nearest school, so have to be taken by car. What should we do. How many of you pontificating on here, have a gas guzzling car, to run your busi ess, carry your tools and equipment. I wonder. Kahn is like a mad man finding power at his elbow, he won't be out of work, because he can't afford to pay ulez charge will he. Too much without much thought.

It was conceived by Johnson and Khan had to agree to it: something about funding he got for the pandemic.

Wish we could give a thumbs up, or down on this very divisive subject. A gas guzzling car, many don't have a choice, public transport decimated in rural areas, because hey ho, cars became king. What should we do, 20 minute walk to bus stop, poor mobility. Kids can't get into nearest school, so have to be taken by car. What should we do. How many of you pontificating on here, have a gas guzzling car, to run your busi ess, carry your tools and equipment. I wonder. Kahn is like a mad man finding power at his elbow, he won't be out of work, because he can't afford to pay ulez charge will he. Too much without much thought.

Sometimes governments have to do unpopular things. some people are more concerned about being able to drive gas guzzling polluting cars that thinking about improving public services, transport, our water and air.

Well, ULEZ was conceived by the Conservative Party, something that Labour failed to get across to the electorate. I would assume that, by saying it needs looking at he means finding a way of making it more workable. Anyway, it’s the electorate that stated their opinion at the election by being more concerned about their finances than the environment. Understandable up to a point but what are Labour to do if the electorate decide to vote, en mass against a party that puts the environment first?

I was pleased to see that Sadiq Khan did not allow himself to be bullied by Starmer.

Yes, sadly spot on Luckygirl.