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Why dud Labour lose Uxbridge? Was it really because of ULEZ or some other reason?

(112 Posts)
M0nica Thu 03-Aug-23 11:39:56

I have said from the start that blaiming ULEZ for the Conservative victory was misleading. Most cars are ULEZ compatible anyway, so there would not be enough votes in i.

As for blaming 'the poor' who would have to sell their old ULEZ cars to buy new ones (???????), they would not be voting Conservative anyway.

Siope Thu 03-Aug-23 10:57:25

Of course, Uxbridge has a history of poor electoral choices…

maddyone Thu 03-Aug-23 10:57:17

Maybe I’m simplifying but I think it was about ULEZ.

Ilovecheese Thu 03-Aug-23 10:55:49

I read the article in the paper and I think he makes a good point. People do like their representatives to be local, not imposed on them from above. I don't think that Keir Starmer will accept this theory though, because he likes to have control.

Jaxjacky Thu 03-Aug-23 10:50:52

Germanshepherdsmum

The article is behind a paywall.

I scrolled down and clicked on ‘I’m happy’ then you can view.

MaizieD Thu 03-Aug-23 10:19:56

Germanshepherdsmum

The article is behind a paywall.

The Guardian has no paywall, GSM. Try harder...

Whitewavemark2 Thu 03-Aug-23 09:43:32

Well, I was listening to Rory Stewart yesterday talking about this very thing. He had in turn been talking to someone - an academic who studies these things - who had monitored and studied Uxbridge before and during the run up to the election.

In the ancademics opinion, this was won by social media, and algorithms - I need to listen again to give more intelligent detail, but it was convincing and quite frankly worrying.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 03-Aug-23 09:33:29

The article is behind a paywall.

Farzanah Thu 03-Aug-23 09:17:31

I think you got it right with dud Labour Dinahmo.

Grany Thu 03-Aug-23 09:13:35

If you want to find out about KS next probable PM

Starmer stories.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVWVxsRttCQ

MaizieD Thu 03-Aug-23 08:46:26

Is 'dud Labour' just a typo, Dinahmo? 😉

I will read the opinion piece, but I don't think I'll agree with it.

Dinahmo Thu 03-Aug-23 08:42:48

I've just read the following article in the Guardian with the writer's ideas about why Labour lost. He contends that it wasn't ULEZ, it was rather more because of the way in which the LP parachuted in a candidate rather than listening to the local party.

It makes for interesting read, especially for those worried about Labour not winning.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/03/uxbridge-brexit-tories-anti-green-labour-local