Autistic girl 16 arrested for saying police officer looked like her lesbian nana

Obviously nothing led up to it growstuff, or she would have been bearing the consequences.

Do you realize that it was actually against the law to arrest her?

She broke no law.

According to ex officers the police who arrested her should lose their jobs for incompetence.

I think I understand how it is that people find it difficult to see the police as being in the wrong.

We want to support them to do a very difficult job for us.

Unfortunately this time they got it very wrong.

Why is the fact that the mother had breast cancer relevant? I'm a cancer survivor (as are many others), but I wouldn't consider it had anything to do with an incident like this.

I'm not set against the girl at all, but we've only seen a snapshot of what happened, filmed by the mother. As the girl hasn't been charged, the public probably won't get to see any more, so we won't ever know what led up to it.

I watched a clip on Mumsnet of the "incident" and what thr teenager said was not offensive and not in an offensive tone.
The girl seemed to be a bit drunk and very frightened.

I don't know why posters keep saying that we don't know the truth when many have seen enough on a film clip to be satified. If the Police had nothingto show then they had nothing to show to support their side.

I don't understand why people seem set against a young girl and her cancer survivor mother.?

That the police had 7 officers to arrest one young female is so ridiculous. And not been justified.

Nobody knows what facts aren't known because they're not known.

I'm wondering where you see a big over reaction and what facts were not known, Allsorts ?

Big over reaction without knowing the facts again, perhaps the mother should be worried about her daughter behaviour intoxicated and making a nuisance of herself in a public place, it’s a wonder there are any policeman they try to keep the peace and are not allowed to. How they deal with mentally Ill and aggressive people I don’t know, perhaps they should walk away and let them be. Come out when the coast is clear.

Grantanow

Looks like someone decided to stir up the do-gooders.

Could you explain what you mean please?

Looks like someone decided to stir up the do-gooders.

DiamondLily, other forces have issued the same notice. Lancashire Constabulary saying officers will only respond to mh calls if life is at risk.
The police has effectively become the only emergency service. Cuts to public services decimated eg drug/alcohol/mental health services. That alongside increasing substance misuse has increased the prevalence of mental health problems throughout our country

Baggs

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

My understanding was that the girl said the police officer looked like a lesbian, and it was the mother who mentioned the nana. Who knows?

Thanks Wyllow for answering my question. I thought that was what you were saying

Wyllow3

Asked above:

"Are you saying that a mental health professional might have been called out if there were more of them?"

There used to be enough professionals on duty at night to be called out to incidents. This is the basis of the Met's complaint - they are being called out incidents that would have been covered by relevant professionals before.

Well, something will have to sorted out with mental health issues, their services, and the Met police.

The Met will no longer be responding to mental health 999 call outs, unless life is threatened.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/28/met-police-to-stop-attending-emergency-mental-health-calls

The press this morning confirms this mother plans to sue the police. Her comments to journalists suggest police involvement with her daughter on previous occasions.

Foster carers and residential care workers have to report children who don’t return as missing from home, which involves police. They don’t have the leeway to make that decision that birth families have. Children in care are there due to their history and the state shares parental responsibility.

Baggs

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

It’s been reported that the mother is going to sue.

I think this will be a good thing because the police bodycam footage will be able to be made public and the whole incident will be clear instead of just the mothers phone.

I don’t think you can say the remark as it stands was recorded on the police body cams because at the moment they can’t be made public. We can only know what is on the phone. The girl’s remark is just what the mother says she said, isn’t it?

Baggs

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

Correct.

I thought the blonde haired policewoman was well out of order when she was told the girl was autistic and shouted “I don’t care! You are being arrested.”

Apostrophe apology 😬

Asked above:

"Are you saying that a mental health professional might have been called out if there were more of them?"

There used to be enough professionals on duty at night to be called out to incidents. This is the basis of the Met's complaint - they are being called out incidents that would have been covered by relevant professionals before.

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

AGAA4

People need to realise that the police aren't there to deal with this type of social situation. They haven't got the manpower for a start.
I don't like trial by social media as we weren't witness to what happened and mostly have the mother's account.
The police should not have been called to this incident.
If you want to blame anybody blame the government for not enough police officers and social services.

But in lots of cases they are! As I said earlier, my foster carer friend is instructed by social services to call the Police if any of her foster kids go missing or are even later home than they should be. The Police then locate them and bring them back to her. Can you suggest who else should do this?

I personally don’t think it’s their job either but that’s the way it is.

People need to realise that the police aren't there to deal with this type of social situation. They haven't got the manpower for a start.
I don't like trial by social media as we weren't witness to what happened and mostly have the mother's account.
The police should not have been called to this incident.
If you want to blame anybody blame the government for not enough police officers and social services.

Anniebach

Why should police have to put up with offensive comments ?

I don’t think anybody has suggested they should Anniebach.

HousePlantQueen

Primrose53

It said on TV this morning that the girl said the police woman looked like her lesbian nana.

Even if they were told the girl was autistic they probably don’t know what being autistic even means. They know everything there is to know about painting rainbows on police cars but not about disabilities. they need educating.

as far as I know, the Police are not a taxi service for drunk underage people, whether neurodiverse or not. Had the police left her to continue drinking, and she had been harmed, no doubt her Mother would blame them for that too. Saying that the Police probably don't even know what autistic means is a nasty comment and unnecessary

As has already been said he mother was asleep when the older daughter rang her to say the autistic sister was drunk. maybe she wasn’t used to drinking alcohol or maybe somebody spiked her drink we don’t know. But her sister had the sense to try to get her home as she is vulnerable.

When she was unable to get through to the Mother, she asked the Police to help. My friend, the foster carer frequently has to ring the Police because her foster kids are in a mess. It’s not right that the Police are used like this but it is part of their job it seems.

How you can possibly call my comment about the Police “nasty and unnecessary” is beyond me. I am giving you a true experience. The 2 policemen who called had no idea what autistic meant. You cannot explain that in a few minutes but surely there should be a named person in their division who does and can advise them correctly about how to proceed.

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

VioletSky

This young lady needs better support at home, I wouldn't want my autistic daughter to be out drunk at midnight at 16 and I wouldn't want her all over social media at 16.

I think the police officer could have let this go though, 7 officers and an arrest over a stupid comment is too much.

Unless her behaviour was giving them a cause for concern that she may hurt herself or others there is no need to take her into custody when she probably wasn't meaning anything homophobic.

I would have left one diplomatic officer to sit quietly until she calmed down and explain why her behaviour could get her into serious trouble

Yes, this.

Wyllow we all know services have been cut to the bone, but I doubt that a mental health professional would have been around at the Pride event or at the girl’s home late at night..
Are you saying that a mental health professional might have been called out if there were more of them?
I don’t know for sure from what’s been reported, but this doesn’t seem as if it was an emergency. No one appeared to be at risk. The girl should have been received by her mother and gone to bed. There was no need for this escalation.

Oh, I see. Yes. In fact it's just an excuse for some silly power freak to wield her authority. Goodness knows why not one of those 6 other policemen said "hang on a minute..." or some such.

Non-crime means non-crime. Why don't the police get that?