Autistic girl 16 arrested for saying police officer looked like her lesbian nana

Asked above:

"Are you saying that a mental health professional might have been called out if there were more of them?"

There used to be enough professionals on duty at night to be called out to incidents. This is the basis of the Met's complaint - they are being called out incidents that would have been covered by relevant professionals before.

Apostrophe apology 😬

Baggs

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

Correct.

I thought the blonde haired policewoman was well out of order when she was told the girl was autistic and shouted “I don’t care! You are being arrested.”

Baggs

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

It’s been reported that the mother is going to sue.

I think this will be a good thing because the police bodycam footage will be able to be made public and the whole incident will be clear instead of just the mothers phone.

I don’t think you can say the remark as it stands was recorded on the police body cams because at the moment they can’t be made public. We can only know what is on the phone. The girl’s remark is just what the mother says she said, isn’t it?

The press this morning confirms this mother plans to sue the police. Her comments to journalists suggest police involvement with her daughter on previous occasions.

Foster carers and residential care workers have to report children who don’t return as missing from home, which involves police. They don’t have the leeway to make that decision that birth families have. Children in care are there due to their history and the state shares parental responsibility.

Wyllow3

Asked above:

"Are you saying that a mental health professional might have been called out if there were more of them?"

There used to be enough professionals on duty at night to be called out to incidents. This is the basis of the Met's complaint - they are being called out incidents that would have been covered by relevant professionals before.

Well, something will have to sorted out with mental health issues, their services, and the Met police.

The Met will no longer be responding to mental health 999 call outs, unless life is threatened.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/28/met-police-to-stop-attending-emergency-mental-health-calls

Thanks Wyllow for answering my question. I thought that was what you were saying

Baggs

Anniebach

The mother has informed the world what the girl allegedly said, is it the truth ?

I believe what was said was recorded on the police-people's body cams.

And in any case saying someone looks like someone else is not offensive.

My understanding was that the girl said the police officer looked like a lesbian, and it was the mother who mentioned the nana. Who knows?

DiamondLily, other forces have issued the same notice. Lancashire Constabulary saying officers will only respond to mh calls if life is at risk.
The police has effectively become the only emergency service. Cuts to public services decimated eg drug/alcohol/mental health services. That alongside increasing substance misuse has increased the prevalence of mental health problems throughout our country

Looks like someone decided to stir up the do-gooders.

Grantanow

Looks like someone decided to stir up the do-gooders.

Could you explain what you mean please?

Big over reaction without knowing the facts again, perhaps the mother should be worried about her daughter behaviour intoxicated and making a nuisance of herself in a public place, it’s a wonder there are any policeman they try to keep the peace and are not allowed to. How they deal with mentally Ill and aggressive people I don’t know, perhaps they should walk away and let them be. Come out when the coast is clear.

I'm wondering where you see a big over reaction and what facts were not known, Allsorts ?

Nobody knows what facts aren't known because they're not known.

I watched a clip on Mumsnet of the "incident" and what thr teenager said was not offensive and not in an offensive tone.
The girl seemed to be a bit drunk and very frightened.

I don't know why posters keep saying that we don't know the truth when many have seen enough on a film clip to be satified. If the Police had nothingto show then they had nothing to show to support their side.

I don't understand why people seem set against a young girl and her cancer survivor mother.?

That the police had 7 officers to arrest one young female is so ridiculous. And not been justified.

Why is the fact that the mother had breast cancer relevant? I'm a cancer survivor (as are many others), but I wouldn't consider it had anything to do with an incident like this.

I'm not set against the girl at all, but we've only seen a snapshot of what happened, filmed by the mother. As the girl hasn't been charged, the public probably won't get to see any more, so we won't ever know what led up to it.

Obviously nothing led up to it growstuff, or she would have been bearing the consequences.

Do you realize that it was actually against the law to arrest her?

She broke no law.

According to ex officers the police who arrested her should lose their jobs for incompetence.

I think I understand how it is that people find it difficult to see the police as being in the wrong.

We want to support them to do a very difficult job for us.

Unfortunately this time they got it very wrong.

growstuff

Why is the fact that the mother had breast cancer relevant? I'm a cancer survivor (as are many others), but I wouldn't consider it had anything to do with an incident like this.

I'm not set against the girl at all, but we've only seen a snapshot of what happened, filmed by the mother. As the girl hasn't been charged, the public probably won't get to see any more, so we won't ever know what led up to it.

Nobody would mention that they had had cancer in this situation except to gain sympathy. It’s totally irrelevant. The mother has made a huge fuss about this incident and done her daughter no favours. I don’t understand why any mother who had her child’s best interests at heart would put footage of this incident on social media.

Because it's usually more effective than any complaints procedure.

Galaxy

Because it's usually more effective than any complaints procedure.

Precisely

I thought that the mum's cancer was mentioned to explain why she was asleep at the time.

It more than likely was, as you say, to give more background info.
Of course everybody interprets things differently.

pinkquartz

I thought that the mum's cancer was mentioned to explain why she was asleep at the time.

Wasn't it 1am? Most people are asleep then. I just don't see that it's relevant.

Germanshepherdsmum

growstuff

Why is the fact that the mother had breast cancer relevant? I'm a cancer survivor (as are many others), but I wouldn't consider it had anything to do with an incident like this.

I'm not set against the girl at all, but we've only seen a snapshot of what happened, filmed by the mother. As the girl hasn't been charged, the public probably won't get to see any more, so we won't ever know what led up to it.

Nobody would mention that they had had cancer in this situation except to gain sympathy. It’s totally irrelevant. The mother has made a huge fuss about this incident and done her daughter no favours. I don’t understand why any mother who had her child’s best interests at heart would put footage of this incident on social media.

I dont understand why any mother who had her childs best interests at heart ...

Maybe her actions were in the best interests of her child?

Is plastering footage of your drunken daughter being arrested all over social media acting in her best interests?