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Refugees moved OFF BibbyStockholm barge..

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CvD66 Fri 11-Aug-23 13:44:09

..due to Legionella bacteria being found! First the barge was highlighted as a major fire risk, now it is a significant health risk. Did the Home Office not do due diligence before spending excessive taxpayer money for this white elephant? Health issues are decidedly dangerous as it is planned to house double the normal accommodation of 222 residents on this barge by installing bunks!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 11:39:20

Thank you for your support peeps🤗.

Those who know me know that I avoid personal confrontation like the plague - mostly because I’m no good at it😄

Maremia Sat 12-Aug-23 11:35:33

Just a wee question for Primrose53, and your PM tag team. You scroll past WWM2s posts, so why then have I seen your posts on threads generated by WWM2?

westendgirl Sat 12-Aug-23 11:31:25

Casdon, thank you for your post.It is disturbing that posters should be so unpleasant . Surely at our age everyone should be well past the playground gang system.
WWW2 's posts are always well worth reading and I agree this poster deserves more respect.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 12-Aug-23 11:22:36

The BBC reported this morning that a deep clean is underway and that once a clear test result is received the refugees should be moved back to the Stockholm Bibby in appropriate a weeks time.

Casdon Sat 12-Aug-23 11:20:50

MaizieD

Fleurpepper

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

Perfectly calm thanks.👍

I have had several PMs telling me to do what they do and scroll past your posts. You will soon be talking to yourself!!

At least you had the good grace to try to delete your erroneous post.

What a thoroughly unpleasant and un-necessary post.

I've known for ages that PMs are used to orchestrate campaigns against other posters.

Primrose53 there is no excuse for rudeness, or to claim that because you and a few others don’t like the way somebody posts that ‘most’ people don’t read their posts, because that’s not the case. Whitewavemark2 is a long-standing and respected poster who has interesting things to say, whether you agree with them or not is up to you, but get off her back.

Let’s just have a civilised, adult discussion where people say what they think and argue with the content of posts, not target individuals in such a disrespectful way.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 11:20:46

Listening to the News Agents, about the “small boats week” and what an awful failure it has been. When you think about it, it could not have gone worse.

Chris Bryant was saying that the strategy of the government is - with the knowledge that they are very likely to be wiped out at the election - is to try to cling on to their core voters by what he called “feeding the crocodile red meat” like the cultural wars, asylum seekers etc, but it is all proving a disaster and eventually they are going to run out of meat and the crocodile will turn and gulp they will be gone😄

Farzanah Sat 12-Aug-23 11:11:11

Well Whitewave won’t be “talking to herself”, there’s plenty of us who take notice of her here. GN isn’t an exclusive club for those of just one political persuasion.

I find it hard to understand why anyone was allowed onto the barge without all the health checks completed and results known. Legionella can take a few days to develop so I hope no asylum seekers have been infected.

These pesky “leftie” bacteria out to thwart the government.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 11:10:10

MaizieD

Fleurpepper

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

Perfectly calm thanks.👍

I have had several PMs telling me to do what they do and scroll past your posts. You will soon be talking to yourself!!

At least you had the good grace to try to delete your erroneous post.

What a thoroughly unpleasant and un-necessary post.

I've known for ages that PMs are used to orchestrate campaigns against other posters.

Bit weird! People come in all modes of operation😄 but honestly I think most of us can rise above the silliness. The best thing is if you can get the herd to ignore your posts. You are left alone then.

MaizieD Sat 12-Aug-23 11:05:20

Fleurpepper

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

Perfectly calm thanks.👍

I have had several PMs telling me to do what they do and scroll past your posts. You will soon be talking to yourself!!

At least you had the good grace to try to delete your erroneous post.

What a thoroughly unpleasant and un-necessary post.

I've known for ages that PMs are used to orchestrate campaigns against other posters.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 10:24:57

Whatever the truth of the timeline I think that there is sufficient evidence to show that the HO knew about the Legionnaires on Wednesday, but still placed a further 6 asylum seekers on board on Thursday.

Everyone was then removed on Friday.

Legionnaires can take up to16 days to develop.

Fleurpepper Sat 12-Aug-23 10:21:25

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

Perfectly calm thanks.👍

I have had several PMs telling me to do what they do and scroll past your posts. You will soon be talking to yourself!!

At least you had the good grace to try to delete your erroneous post.

What a thoroughly unpleasant and un-necessary post.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 10:15:37

Have they resolved the fire hazard issue yet?

The staff must also be at risk.

What a dreadful mess it all is.

Fleurpepper Sat 12-Aug-23 10:09:40

NotSpaghetti

I don't know the timings WWM
The people may have been on board 1st to be fair.

I haven't heard more than that the testing of the water supply on board was carried out on 25 July but the results did not come back until 7 Aug- the day the asylum seekers began to board.

They may not have known till after they were on?

But apparently the supply up to the barge is clear.
It is on board systems that have the problem.

Whatever Primrose says- any responsible Goverment would NOT plan to move anyone on such a facility until the results are back and clear. You WAIT for results, then act- not t'other way round.

NotSpaghetti Sat 12-Aug-23 10:08:12

diamondlily - if the test results were not sent to private contractors until the Monday, as you say, and the Home Office weren't told till Wednesday, then maybe the contract isn't very good - and maybe the government should have got the residents off on Wednesday instead of Thursday/Friday... ?

Seems very sloppy however you look at it.

growstuff Sat 12-Aug-23 10:03:49

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

Perfectly calm thanks.👍

I have had several PMs telling me to do what they do and scroll past your posts. You will soon be talking to yourself!!

At least you had the good grace to try to delete your erroneous post.

Wow! You have some interesting PMs.

NotSpaghetti Sat 12-Aug-23 10:02:28

I think, tbh, as there are multiple reports of the date the sample was taken and the date the results were given it's reasonable to assume that someone in government knew on the Monday.

It might not have been Braverman and Jenrick - but if not, why not?

And why no action for 3 days?

When this was found at a forge in Birmingham the whole factory was shut down immediately pending a thorough cleaning.

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 09:58:02

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

Perfectly calm thanks.👍

I have had several PMs telling me to do what they do and scroll past your posts. You will soon be talking to yourself!!

At least you had the good grace to try to delete your erroneous post.

MaizieD Sat 12-Aug-23 09:55:05

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

the evidence seems to be that she did scroll past some of your posts. Too full of indignation to read the ones that apologised for giving false information..

I was puzzled because I'd seen a Guardian report and a BBC report which said much the same as the report DiamondLily posted. I just wondered if you'd seen something very up to date about this.

Though, I must say, I think twitter would have been alight if Jenrick and Braverman had known on Monday grin

growstuff Sat 12-Aug-23 09:54:37

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

How do you know that most people scroll past *Whitewave"'s posts? Have you been doing some kind of survey?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 09:49:23

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

I have asked for this to be taken down, but I guess they are off for the weekend? So take it as read - it is deleted.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 09:48:00

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.

You need to calm down a little and take your own advice and scroll past my posts. I will be more than happy for you to do so and those who apparently already do😄

It is something that in the scheme of things I am very relaxed about.

DiamondLily Sat 12-Aug-23 09:43:11

Well, I can only speak from my experience, which was not something I'd like to repeat - it's a nasty illness, causes complications, and kills many.

I've been left with lifelong problems.

Which is why hospitals, holiday resorts, hotels etc are so meticulous about testing for it.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Aug-23 09:37:15

My point has just been made😄😄😄😄

DiamondLily Sat 12-Aug-23 09:36:59

Whitewavemark2

Tbh I would have thought that with such a serious notifiable disease the contractors would have communicated asap, which would have been Monday. And the authorities who found the disease would almost certainly have notified the HO I would have thought, but I have no information to provide as evidence yet.

Well, all I know, is that when I contracted it, and it was realised, every relevant place and organisation were notified immediately.

This was years ago, and I would have thought, with technology, the notification process would be even quicker.

But, who knows?

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 09:32:43

Whitewavemark2

So Braverman and Jenrick knew about the legionnaires last Monday, but were still willing to risk both the staffs lives as well as the asylum seekers.

In my view their actions were criminal.

You don’t know that!

Just like the rubbish you posted about Nigel Farage not having enough money to have a Coutts account or being involved with Russians. Why post what you “think” you should only post what you know is correct. Even when Farage was cleared of all that you never apologise. It’s no wonder most people just scroll past your posts.