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Refugees moved OFF BibbyStockholm barge..

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CvD66 Fri 11-Aug-23 13:44:09

..due to Legionella bacteria being found! First the barge was highlighted as a major fire risk, now it is a significant health risk. Did the Home Office not do due diligence before spending excessive taxpayer money for this white elephant? Health issues are decidedly dangerous as it is planned to house double the normal accommodation of 222 residents on this barge by installing bunks!

Callistemon21 Fri 11-Aug-23 16:21:18

www.gransnet.com/forums/health/1326652-11-year-old-has-not-seen-Dentist-for-over-12-months

Is it any wonder people get upset?

Ilovecheese Fri 11-Aug-23 16:19:31

Do we know who has been paid for this barge?

Callistemon21 Fri 11-Aug-23 16:18:15

They have a dedicated GP ,practice Nurses, and low and behold they've found a Dentist.

Oh, can we tell the worried Gransnetter whose 11 year DGC can't get a dental appointment?
Or people forced to pull out thei own teeth with pliers?

Where did this dentist appear from?
They're like gold dust!!

Callistemon21 Fri 11-Aug-23 16:15:57

I don’t think the proximity of a hospital matters, young men are the lowest users of hospital services of all age groups and sexes, and many of us live a long way from our nearest general hospital, mine is 22 miles away, and for people living deeper into mid Wales it’s much further than that.

Yes, and they would get transport to the hospital too if they became ill.

Urmstongran Fri 11-Aug-23 16:15:55

Glorianny

Just wondering, Can we have our money back? £1.6 billion given away for a barge which isn't fit for purpose.

More pertinently perhaps, can we have the money back we are shovelling to Macron? Or at the very least, stop paying the French and put these HUGE amounts to better use.

Freya5 Fri 11-Aug-23 16:15:51

Casdon

I don’t think the proximity of a hospital matters, young men are the lowest users of hospital services of all age groups and sexes, and many of us live a long way from our nearest general hospital, mine is 22 miles away, and for people living deeper into mid Wales it’s much further than that.
However, the GP issue is a really serious one, and will inevitably impact on all patients of the practices which are instructed to take on the additional workload. I can’t speak for England, but in Wales when services extra to the routine GP workload are required, they are commissioned as an additional service, with a specific budget, and practices are invited to submit tenders for the provision. This is done routinely for prisons, nursing homes, long stay mental health units etc. I would have thought that they should be doing something similar for all asylum seeker hotels etc.

They have a dedicated GP ,practice Nurses, and low and behold they've found a Dentist.

Primrose53 Fri 11-Aug-23 16:15:09

If it is Legionnaires disease that can happen in the best hotels anywhere. My friend visited a very posh hotel in Shropshire and just after she got home they had it and had to notify her.

It’s also common in swimming pools, hospitals and spas. Not sure why people are calling the Government names like “hopeless” and “incompetent and heartless”.

Callistemon21 Fri 11-Aug-23 16:13:49

Glorianny

Just wondering, Can we have our money back? £1.6 billion given away for a barge which isn't fit for purpose.

It could be the water supply to the barge that contains Legionella not the pipes and showers on the barge.

They need to find the source quickly and should never have let anyone on board until all was found to be clear.

Is there an air con system on board? Is it in that?

Casdon Fri 11-Aug-23 16:08:10

I don’t think the proximity of a hospital matters, young men are the lowest users of hospital services of all age groups and sexes, and many of us live a long way from our nearest general hospital, mine is 22 miles away, and for people living deeper into mid Wales it’s much further than that.
However, the GP issue is a really serious one, and will inevitably impact on all patients of the practices which are instructed to take on the additional workload. I can’t speak for England, but in Wales when services extra to the routine GP workload are required, they are commissioned as an additional service, with a specific budget, and practices are invited to submit tenders for the provision. This is done routinely for prisons, nursing homes, long stay mental health units etc. I would have thought that they should be doing something similar for all asylum seeker hotels etc.

Glorianny Fri 11-Aug-23 16:01:06

Just wondering, Can we have our money back? £1.6 billion given away for a barge which isn't fit for purpose.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 11-Aug-23 15:53:40

NotSpaghetti

Maybe, grannygravy but this is what she actually said:

^There isn’t the infrastructure to care for them. We don’t have a hospital. We have a GP that covers up to about 14,000 people. Portland is cut off with one road on and one road off.^

That could be said for most parts of the U.K. where refugees/asylum seekers are being held.

Particularly Wethersfield in Essex which is scheduled to have 1,700 young men by the autumn.

There is a tiny cottage hospital 5 miles away, in the middle of the countryside, little to no public transport.

There seems to be a trend of being welcoming to these unfortunate souls until they are located close by. The

westendgirl Fri 11-Aug-23 15:53:33

Surely the minister was informed and the Home Secretary.
A resigning matter if that is the case .

GrannyGravy13 Fri 11-Aug-23 15:50:03

westendgirl

If the test results came back on the 7th , the Monday the first group of asylum seekers were put on the barge , then someone has had this information since then and hasn't acted on it .
It's no good Jenrick saying how good and safe the barge is ,is it ?
Someone must have known and supressed the information .

Yes as I posted upthread whoever it is should be held to account

Fleurpepper Fri 11-Aug-23 15:50:03

Can't find the words, honestly sad

westendgirl Fri 11-Aug-23 15:42:40

If the test results came back on the 7th , the Monday the first group of asylum seekers were put on the barge , then someone has had this information since then and hasn't acted on it .
It's no good Jenrick saying how good and safe the barge is ,is it ?
Someone must have known and supressed the information .

NotSpaghetti Fri 11-Aug-23 15:24:50

Maybe, grannygravy but this is what she actually said:

There isn’t the infrastructure to care for them. We don’t have a hospital. We have a GP that covers up to about 14,000 people. Portland is cut off with one road on and one road off.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 11-Aug-23 15:20:45

BlueBelle

Total total cock up by incompetent heartless government

Heartless would be pushing the boats back.

Heartless would be leaving them to fend for themselves like the French do in and around its coast.

When the asylum seekers arrive in the U.K. they are given safe lodgings, food, medical and dental care and help with their applications.

They should have waited for test results before housing them on the Bibby.

The mayor is questioning planning permission because he and the locals do not want them their, are they heartless ?

BlueBelle Fri 11-Aug-23 15:06:23

Total total cock up by incompetent heartless government

GrannyGravy13 Fri 11-Aug-23 15:05:59

Whitewavemark2

What a shambles

It obviously hasn’t gone to plan.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Aug-23 15:02:26

What a shambles

GrannyGravy13 Fri 11-Aug-23 15:00:29

I hope whoever overlooked that the legionnaires test results hadn’t been received is held to account.

NotSpaghetti Fri 11-Aug-23 14:58:55

And now the local Mayor is apparently calling them out regarding planning permission as it's hooked up to sewage, electric and water etc.

The government say they don't need planning permission (because of the water line?). We will see.

Grantanow Fri 11-Aug-23 14:49:23

It's those Lefty bacteria again!

Casdon Fri 11-Aug-23 14:39:22

That’s bad, because that was the day the first asylum seekers went onboard. Something has definitely gone wrong.

NotSpaghetti Fri 11-Aug-23 14:33:10

They tested the water supply ahead of putting people on board but didn't bother to wait for the results - which apparently came back on the 7th.