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54 migrants rescued this morning in French waters are brought to UK

(254 Posts)
Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 09:14:30

They were just 4 miles off the French coast yet ended up in Dover as usual!!

We have given France 500MILLION to sort things their end. They must be laughing their heads off.

VioletSky Sun 13-Aug-23 01:20:56

No it isn't

Louella12 Sun 13-Aug-23 00:58:45

VioletSky

Privilege at work

Rubbish

MayBee70 Sun 13-Aug-23 00:28:50

Attlee

I'm not wrong though, this is a thread about a tragedy and it was inappropriate to use laughing emojis, whatever the context was
I have no problem with apologising when I am wrong , but I don't think I am, so I won't

Emojis aside in whatever context they were meant to be I think Primrose has made it very clear what her views on migrants are .

Attlee Sat 12-Aug-23 22:58:25

I'm not wrong though, this is a thread about a tragedy and it was inappropriate to use laughing emojis, whatever the context was
I have no problem with apologising when I am wrong , but I don't think I am, so I won't

VioletSky Sat 12-Aug-23 22:57:47

Gransnet threads are shareable and already appear other places but I wouldn't do that or it would add to the rows and people would join just to argue

Fleurpepper Sat 12-Aug-23 22:56:22

MayBee70

foxie48

What a vile thread this has become, talking about rescuing animals when people have died, discussing if British boats should rescue drowning people in French waters, Just vile. I'm out!

Me too. I need a break from this. I’m so ashamed to read some of this.

Just shameful, so glad I have been out all day and kept away.

I wonder if the Press will one day take an interest in GN and report some of the 'views' on here. sad

VioletSky Sat 12-Aug-23 22:51:15

No self reflection or personal growth

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:50:55

Attlee

I'd just leave it there if I were you...

So it’s a No then from you, even though you jumped to the wrong conclusion.

Why do people find it so hard to apologise? I never have a problem with that. If I am wrong or need to apologise I hold my hands up.

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:48:37

Foxygloves

^I notice you didn’t answer my question about whether you have ever been asked where you’re from or where you live. I cannot believe there is a person alive who has not been asked that whether on a plane, a bus, coffee shop, hairdressers, on holiday, when you move to a new area etc^

This is totally irrelevant to the thread topic of people crossing the channel in small boats . Or are you restarting the Buckingham Palace shenanigans?

No idea what the BP shenanigans is all about.

I have asked if we could get back on track by the way. @22.07

Attlee Sat 12-Aug-23 22:47:13

I'd just leave it there if I were you...

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:46:14

Primrose53

Attlee

Primrose53, I didn't specifically want to name individuals, but since you asked, just look at your post 20.10 - two laughing emojis.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

Those emojis were nothing to do with migrants! They were about a comment between my husband and myself.

Maybe you would like to apologise for telling me I should be ashamed of myself when you got the wrong end of the stick.

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:44:46

Attlee

Primrose53, I didn't specifically want to name individuals, but since you asked, just look at your post 20.10 - two laughing emojis.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

Those emojis were nothing to do with migrants! They were about a comment between my husband and myself.

Foxygloves Sat 12-Aug-23 22:38:14

I notice you didn’t answer my question about whether you have ever been asked where you’re from or where you live. I cannot believe there is a person alive who has not been asked that whether on a plane, a bus, coffee shop, hairdressers, on holiday, when you move to a new area etc

This is totally irrelevant to the thread topic of people crossing the channel in small boats . Or are you restarting the Buckingham Palace shenanigans?

biglouis Sat 12-Aug-23 22:33:12

Many people have strong feelings about helping our own homeless before housing and feeding asylum seekers. I am one such person

Not often GSM and I agree on something.

Attlee Sat 12-Aug-23 22:17:56

Primrose53, I didn't specifically want to name individuals, but since you asked, just look at your post 20.10 - two laughing emojis.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

Freya5 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:11:57

HousePlantQueen

*Do you really believe that a surgeon would have to pay a criminal smuggling gang to get here on a dinghy don't be ridiculous, he would go through the proper channels if he was genuine*

a swift google would have shown you these as a small sample, and saved you from looking very silly, and uninformed of the difficulties of applying for asylum through what you call legal routes. I can find a few more if you like?

inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/work/nationality-borders-bill-came-uk-refugees-work-nhs-turned-away-1414306

www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/refugee-doctors-lincolnshire-coronavirus-4288897

Yes my local area. You really think any Dr should be allowed to practice in the UK without due process. A Dr needs to provide evidence. Our medics can't practice in America , or Australia,in fact anywhere without proof of skills and qualifications. A PLAB test needs to be undertaken before any foreign registered Dr can be allowed to practice in the UK. The hospitals in Lincolnshire have a refugee Dr , and Radiographer, orientation programme to eventually allow them to practice. See the Lincolnshire Refugee Doctor project. I believe some of those who worked during covid, have achieved their aims. Pleased to say.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:10:38

These people were desperate, my heart aches for their families, I pray for their souls 👃

Primrose53 Sat 12-Aug-23 22:07:00

Attlee

I am saddened and sickened by some of these comments.
People have tragically lost their lives and some posters actually think it's appropriate to use laughing emojis in their comments.
I have no words to describe how very sad I feel after reading this bile

I don’t see any laughing emojis Attlee.

The thread has gone off in many directions so let’s get it back on track.

Latest news is that the dead people are Afghans and a Sudanese man and 2 people are still missing.

Attlee Sat 12-Aug-23 21:53:24

I am saddened and sickened by some of these comments.
People have tragically lost their lives and some posters actually think it's appropriate to use laughing emojis in their comments.
I have no words to describe how very sad I feel after reading this bile

GrannyGravy13 Sat 12-Aug-23 21:51:57

I have a dear friend who would answer that question with ^I was made in X from Y & Z and grown in X, Y, Z & A…

Casdon Sat 12-Aug-23 21:41:59

Vintagewhine

I am British, my parents are British, one of my grandparents is British. I speak English but I am not "white" If someone asked me where I was from, I'd say the name of the city I live in. If they were meaning "are you British?" That would be saying much more about them than it would say about me. Would they ask the same question if I was white. Of course not!

Thanks for this, you illustrate the point perfectly.
People just need to rephrase their question to ‘Where do you live?’ which is so simple for them to do.

VioletSky Sat 12-Aug-23 21:38:30

Privilege at work

Louella12 Sat 12-Aug-23 21:36:36

I'm white. I've lived in Spain and USA. No idea how many times I was asked where I was from. Never once did I think badly of the people who asked.

Vintagewhine Sat 12-Aug-23 21:32:43

I am British, my parents are British, one of my grandparents is British. I speak English but I am not "white" If someone asked me where I was from, I'd say the name of the city I live in. If they were meaning "are you British?" That would be saying much more about them than it would say about me. Would they ask the same question if I was white. Of course not!

MerylStreep Sat 12-Aug-23 21:26:53

Violetsky
In my experience of living in an ex communist country and travelling a lot in others, I found that they have no hang ups about being asked where they are from and they are very upfront asking.
It’s in their DNA caused by growing up under the communist cosh and they pass that distrust on to their children.