EU flags at Last Night of the Proms

I agree Oreo.
Nobody is European because Europe is a landmass of many different countries. People maybe French, German, Polish, Ukrainian, Latvian, Finnish, Albanian, Serbian, or any one of many other countries. The UK and Ireland aren’t even physically joined to the European landmass. All European countries have different cultures and values. People can parrot I’m European till the cows come home but they remain citizens of the country they were born in, or emigrated to and took citizenship from. There is no citizenship of Europe.

I voted remain, by the way. Not from some ridiculous love of a continent, nor an organisation, but for solid economic reasons.

Come on people, you’re better than that, saying Brexiters would like Wagner as it was Hitler’s favourite composer.
I voted to Remain and my lovely Mum voted to Leave.

I don’t care what flags are waved TLNOTP’s is all a bit over the top in any case.

Saying European first then British is just weird.Who thinks of the continent first?😄

Good point! Hitler's favourite composer.
Absolutely vile comment

Just childish and wide of the mark..

Grantanow

M0nica

I bet they wouldn't ban Wagner!

Good point! Hitler's favourite composer.

Absolutely vile comment.

Whitewavemark2

Freya5

MaizieD

How do the 'patriots' cope with all that foreign music that is played at the Proms?

Perhaps the organisers should stick to British composers only

Yes with 57 composers of British nationality, we'd have plenty to chose from wouldn't we.

Be a tad parochial though

Oh dear.

Louella12

I'm very interested to hear why some people refer to themselves as European first. I'm not saying there's anything wrong but I'd love to know when this started.

I'm 63 now. When I was growing up we knew we were from the continent of Europe but nobody I knew referred to themselves as European. British/ English/ Scottish etc etc, but never European.

Europe is such a fabulous continent. Filled with different culture and beliefs

I voted Remsin but I have to say I've never thought of myself as European. Even though I am.

Exactly! My nephew’s wife is Brazilian and I’ve never heard her describe herself as South American.

I'm very interested to hear why some people refer to themselves as European first. I'm not saying there's anything wrong but I'd love to know when this started.

I'm 63 now. When I was growing up we knew we were from the continent of Europe but nobody I knew referred to themselves as European. British/ English/ Scottish etc etc, but never European.

Europe is such a fabulous continent. Filled with different culture and beliefs

I voted Remsin but I have to say I've never thought of myself as European. Even though I am.

I applaud the way in which the Proms have expanded the range of music that is played. This year I enjoyed the Northern Soul prom and loved the Four Seasons led by the Finnish violinist/conductor. The audience thoroughly enjoyed both of those nights.

Long live the BBC I say for organising the Prom season.

jenpax

I am a European as well as a Brit and I have always felt European first and British second so if I had been there I would have waved an EU flag too! I can’t see the problem! We may have left the EU but geographically we are still Europeans!

Me too.

M0nica

I bet they wouldn't ban Wagner!

Good point! Hitler's favourite composer.

I bet they wouldn't ban Wagner!

I guess the Brexiteers would ban Bach, Mendelssohn, Beethoven. Ravel and many other EU composers.

BlueBelle

I love the EU flag waving we should never be in the position we are in Good for them

completely agree

Foxygloves

^That's what 'they' want, isn't it^ ?
Oh let’s have a bunfight about the choice of music at the Proms now shall we?
(Rammy in an empty room springs to mind?)
PS I was blown away by the Berlioz Les Troyens - at 5 1/2 hours it was fantastic value for money too)

The reference was meant to be to parochialism.

I trust that no-one would ever seriously suggest that the music played at the Proms should be by British composers only.

(I actually find the Rule Britannia bit a trifle nauseating in view of the idiocy into which Britannia has lapsed in the past 7 years.)

Not so long ago it was all men making the commentary, so we must just take it as it comes.

By the way recent polls show that the proportion of the population supporting Brexit are declining in number. This is why the remaining Brexiteers are so defensive. They were barely the majority in 2016 and grow fewer by the day www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

That's what 'they' want, isn't it ?
Oh let’s have a bunfight about the choice of music at the Proms now shall we?
(Rammy in an empty room springs to mind?)
PS I was blown away by the Berlioz Les Troyens - at 5 1/2 hours it was fantastic value for money too)

My slight moan was that it was all women talking in the commentary.
Ok but I do like a good looking man to look at and listen to, sometimes.

I dont consider the "jack2 to be my flag...that would be a Saltire

What’s the meaning behind Jack2, paddyann?

I haven’t heard it before.

Deedaa my pet hate is school children being taken out of class and given Union jacks to wave any time theres a royal visit.I never allowed my kids to take part because I am a republican and because I dont consider the "jack2 to be my flag...that would be a Saltire which is hundreds of years older than the jack or the red and white St George's cross

I am sure they never even thought of it here, just not an issue. For us it is probably better because we might get a few trade deals with the UK that they reneged on when they went into the EU. We always bought New Zealand lamb when I was a child, that was about all that was there.

I love the fact that the people who were so keen on us gaining "Independence" now want to crack down on people wanting to take their choice of flag into a public concert. Will they be handing out compulsory union flags at the doors of the Albert Hall next year? My feeling is that a hall full of people waving EU flags while singing Rule Britannia just shows that Brexit is never going to work.

Whitewavemark2

Freya5

MaizieD

How do the 'patriots' cope with all that foreign music that is played at the Proms?

Perhaps the organisers should stick to British composers only

Yes with 57 composers of British nationality, we'd have plenty to chose from wouldn't we.

Be a tad parochial though

That's what 'they' want, isn't it?

I watched the Last Night and it struck me immediately the EU flags outnumbered anything else. Loved it. Amazing that people object to such a sight.
'From the fury of the Brexiteers Good Lord deliver us.'

Freya5

MaizieD

How do the 'patriots' cope with all that foreign music that is played at the Proms?

Perhaps the organisers should stick to British composers only

Yes with 57 composers of British nationality, we'd have plenty to chose from wouldn't we.

Be a tad parochial though

MaizieD

How do the 'patriots' cope with all that foreign music that is played at the Proms?

Perhaps the organisers should stick to British composers only

Yes with 57 composers of British nationality, we'd have plenty to chose from wouldn't we.