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Just how stupid do the Tories think we are?

(158 Posts)
DiamondLily Fri 22-Sept-23 12:29:21

You know if any politician is lying - their lips are moving.🙄

There are a few notable exceptions, but the vast majority (all parties) are self serving, hypocritical, money grabbers.😗

nanna8 Fri 22-Sept-23 12:21:34

I sometimes wonder if they were in fact any better before. We hear more now because of the internet and social media but perhaps they were always a bunch of self serving egotists? I really don’t know.

biglouis Fri 22-Sept-23 11:50:23

I think it takes a "certain" type of person to succeed in politics. I watched the 1990 mini-series House of cards this week, set in Westminster, and thoroughly enjoyed it

Agree 100% and an excellent series. Far better than the American version.

I believe it takes a certain type of narcissistic personality to go into politics.

Salti Fri 22-Sept-23 11:45:26

You're no more cynical then I am. I think it takes a "certain" type of person to succeed in politics. I watched the 1990 mini-series House of cards this week, set in Westminster, and thoroughly enjoyed it. As the French would say, "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose".

maddyone Fri 22-Sept-23 11:44:02

You’re an idealist Whitewave.
It’s nice to be an idealist because you believe things can be changed. Sadly I lost that a long time ago and now I’m just cynical.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Sept-23 11:40:43

No, not all politicians are as bad as what we have been landed with lately.

I give you Johnson, Truss and now Sunak.

You would be hard pushed to find another lot of such scoundrels of any political colour.

maddyone Fri 22-Sept-23 11:35:44

Twas ever thus.
All politicians think the population are stupid, and they are pretty well all lacking in any real care towards any of us. The higher up the greasy pole they climb, the more contemptuous of us they become.
Don’t trust any of them, whatever their political allegiance. They are in it for themselves and themselves alone. Do not think they care about you, the poor, the disabled, the pensioners, the sick, or anyone else. They care about power.

Yes, I’m cynical. I wonder why?

CvD66 Fri 22-Sept-23 11:03:37

‘Keep people fearful and they are easier to lead’ is a long held, erroneous theory often espoused by politicians. Sunak’s latest claim to cancel 7 environmental policies were designed to make people fearful - and to be relieved that he ‘cancelled’ them. These 7 policies did not exist. There are vague hints of elements of these in some enviromental research papers but NO ONE has remotely suggested these will be implemented. Yet Sunak can blithely announce he has cancelled these so we are all supposed to be delighted. What he has done is provoke lots of derision and other ‘ideas’ of things he could cancel next eg: toothpaste tax., air tax etc Help people recognise they are being duped!!