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Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

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Fleurpepper Sat 23-Sept-23 15:05:02

oh I wish I was there. Looks like a great crowd. The BBC will say there were a handful, of course.

Oreo Mon 25-Sept-23 08:07:31

Not sure where you got that info CoolCoco
When we had that agreement how many were sent back?
They started using small boats as a result of more security measures with lorries which made hopping on one or people smugglers using them really difficult.Also of course all the awful deaths of immigrants inside them.

CoolCoco Mon 25-Sept-23 06:18:09

New research shows that the Tory government is to blame for the small boats crisis. There were no small boats crossing before 2017. The current crisis is a direct result of their choice to withdraw from our returns agreement that was in place as part of our membership also their failure to put a replacement deal in its place. This was a choice they made and there would be no crisis if they had retained the original arrangement.

vegansrock Mon 25-Sept-23 05:16:34

A lot of those who voted leave are now dead , including my late MiL, who did not live to see the “benefits”, which she thought would be fewer African immigrants and a better NHS. Don’t ask me where she got her ideas from.

nanna8 Mon 25-Sept-23 00:05:08

Most of my friends over here couldn’t believe it got through. Thought we were on a different planet !

MayBee70 Sun 24-Sept-23 23:48:32

In what way did they not treat our decision with respect?

GrannyRose15 Sun 24-Sept-23 23:27:32

On a much more serious note I do believe the EU could have treated our decision with more respect. Though so many of our own politicians haven’t done so I suppose it was a vain hope from the beginning.

GrannyRose15 Sun 24-Sept-23 23:24:47

Katie59

“It might be my senior memory failing me but I don't recall any of the Leave campaigners in the run up to the referendum telling us that we wouldn't see any benefits for 50 years...”

That was Rees Mogg sometime after the referendum

Pity you didn’t speak to me because I was saying it before the referendum. Though I was saying forty not fifty years. Interesting how my 40 has become 50 considering the other thread I have commented on this evening which was about maths education.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 21:54:33

Aveline

Oh sorry. Should I have said 'they'?

No- 'she' has a Forum name, just like you. If I have something to say to you, I'll quote or say your name.

Dickens, of course, thanks.

Dickens Sun 24-Sept-23 21:49:41

Louella12

There were since graduates walking round and questioning the older protestors. They were asking them what they missed about the EU. Most of them looked black but one last did say that the other countries were doing better than we were

Chap pointed out that this was not the case at all and Germany is in recession. French farmers, who according to posters here, are protesting and Italy has an horrendous problem with immigrants.

It's not great anywhere. Older people seem to be clinging in to the EU but younger generations just aren't interested

It's over. Why get in such a tizz? It's a bit worrying to read some of these posts. Irrational isn't the word!

It's over. Why get in such a tizz? It's a bit worrying to read some of these posts. Irrational isn't the word!

Well in fact, it's not "over". The ramifications will be felt for some time. Not to mention that the government can't even decide which rules they want to keep and which to throw out.

Although it's certainly 'over' as far as my and my partner's business is concerned because Brexit made it just not worth the effort, financially.

And calling people "irrational" and accusing them of getting into a "tiz" is a well-known tactic - used in attempt to invalidate other's views that you don't agree with.

There is absolutely no logical reason why an event that has had an impact on our economy shouldn't be discussed. Our relationship with the EU is an ongoing matter, and there are still problems to be resolved.

If Mr Rees-Mogg, who seems to believe he knows a lot about the EU and Brexit, believes what he says, that the benefits may not materialise for another 50 odd years, then there is still quite a lot to talk about. After all, those who voted against in the 75 referendum didn't stop banging on about our 'mistake' did they? And look - they got it reversed! I'm sure they were told "it's over" too, but decided not to take any notice.

Aveline Sun 24-Sept-23 21:45:29

Oh sorry. Should I have said 'they'?

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 21:45:25

We were fence sitting here
Oh dear, Australia, you're not having good night.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 21:43:18

Callistemon21

Cheers 🥂
The two best anthems in the world followed by two good teams battling it out on the pitch!

Australia not having a good time though. Wales, wow- bravo.

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 21:39:47

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper if everything is so bad in the U.K. I am surprised you cross La Manche

Where on earth did I say that?

Aveline, how rude and uncouth, and the 'she', wow!

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:25:49

Cheers 🥂
The two best anthems in the world followed by two good teams battling it out on the pitch!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:22:07

Oreo

Am putting my feet up now with some tv and a wine if anyone wants to join me? 😄

Cheers 🥂

Louella12 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:18:20

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Louella12 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:15:29

There were since graduates walking round and questioning the older protestors. They were asking them what they missed about the EU. Most of them looked black but one last did say that the other countries were doing better than we were

Chap pointed out that this was not the case at all and Germany is in recession. French farmers, who according to posters here, are protesting and Italy has an horrendous problem with immigrants.

It's not great anywhere. Older people seem to be clinging in to the EU but younger generations just aren't interested

It's over. Why get in such a tizz? It's a bit worrying to read some of these posts. Irrational isn't the word!

MayBee70 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:15:00

Fleurpepper

The most deceiving, racist and truly despicable video advert posted during the campaign was the one about the two possible outcome re an elderly lady with a cold (who goes to Casualty for a cold!!!) going to Casualty. And the Farage poster!

I’d forgotten that advert! And yet, here we are, out of the EU and can’t even get an appointment with a GP! As for the Farage one: well, it was blatantly racist wasn't it. And yet brexit wasn’t based on racism and xenophobia was it confused?

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HousePlantQueen Sun 24-Sept-23 20:13:28

Sadly I was unable to be there today due to spending most of my time on crutches at the moment. Many friends and acquaintances did go. I will report on their experiences when I have heard from them.

Oreo Sun 24-Sept-23 20:13:19

Am putting my feet up now with some tv and a wine if anyone wants to join me? 😄

Oreo Sun 24-Sept-23 20:11:36

For some, the subject is a scab to be picked at.😖 Why is it rehashed over and over and what’s the point?
And if you feel so much about it then go on the march, not that it will any good.

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 20:06:36

Perhaps going to the march might have been more productive?

Aveline Sun 24-Sept-23 20:04:28

Oh God. She's off on her obsessive hobby horse again.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 19:38:00

Fleurpepper if everything is so bad in the U.K. I am surprised you cross La Manche

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 19:01:08

The most deceiving, racist and truly despicable video advert posted during the campaign was the one about the two possible outcome re an elderly lady with a cold (who goes to Casualty for a cold!!!) going to Casualty. And the Farage poster!