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Any Gnetters at the Rejoin march today in London

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Fleurpepper Sat 23-Sept-23 15:05:02

oh I wish I was there. Looks like a great crowd. The BBC will say there were a handful, of course.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 11:25:23

BBC online according to Sir Ed Davey voters are not talking about Brexit

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 11:20:45

3,000 on yesterday’s march

Party in the Park London 70,000

Events at O2 London 20,000

Top league football games 35,000

Stadium concerts 35-40,000

In perspective - rejoin event yesterday smallfry

maddyone Sun 24-Sept-23 11:17:10

As mentioned before, I saw three thousand at the rejoin EU March, but I saw nothing about numbers at the XL Bullies march. I just knew it was happening.

Callistemon21 Sun 24-Sept-23 11:10:34

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Both protests attracted hundreds of supporters according to The Guardian, presumably in different areas of London.

Neither were mentioned on the mainstream news.

Hundreds is just nonsense.

I wonder why it never made any of the mainstream news? Orders from above?

And to compare it with the XL pitbull demo is also nonsense- there were many 1000s at the Rejoin march, from all over the UK.

I am glad you had a good time maddyone- but why be so unpleasant?

I'm only repeating what I read in The Guardian. It is usually regarded as the best newspaper according to many Gransetters.
Perhaps I should have looked at the Daily Mail for accuracy.

As you weren't there, why do you say it is nonsense?

I believe in the end there were about the same number as at the XL Bully Protest, which I think totalled about three thousand each.

The XL Bully protestors were advised not to take their dogs, just as well.

No, it's not nonsense to mention there was another protest in London on the same day. The police have their leave cancelled in order to keep the peace and allow other members of the public to go about their business.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 11:09:52

maddyone

Fleurpepper thank you for your response. I was perhaps a little contemptuous of protesters marching about rejoining the EU, apologise if it upset you. I’ve explained in my post of 10.33 why I feel as I do so no need to go over it again, except to reiterate that we absolutely must know the terms of rejoining before we actually rejoined and that is why I felt as I do.

In my opinion the regulations for the U.K. to rejoin the EU would be unthinkable for most. Especially the Euro!

maddyone Sun 24-Sept-23 10:58:54

Fleurpepper thank you for your response. I was perhaps a little contemptuous of protesters marching about rejoining the EU, apologise if it upset you. I’ve explained in my post of 10.33 why I feel as I do so no need to go over it again, except to reiterate that we absolutely must know the terms of rejoining before we actually rejoined and that is why I felt as I do.

Urmstongran Sun 24-Sept-23 10:49:28

It’s a topic very high on your list of anxieties and hopes FP but much less so for many of us.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 10:42:59

Fleurpepper the only time I come across the continual Brexit debate is here on GN

Not in the office, at the school gate, at the gym or when we meet up with friends and family nada, never, non…

Fleurpepper Sun 24-Sept-23 10:38:20

Kandinsky

First I’d heard of it & I live in London.
The only protest my local news reported on was the dog ban one. Guess that’s more relevant at the moment.

More relevant? I know you will not believe me, but there is nothing in the UK that is more relevant than the multiple failures of Brexit and the consequences thereof.

maddyone Sun 24-Sept-23 10:37:00

And incidentally Maizie you do not know that I dislike all protests or protesters. Nor whether I’ve ever been on a protest march.

maddyone Sun 24-Sept-23 10:35:01

I think my previous post answers your post of 10.29 Maizie.

maddyone Sun 24-Sept-23 10:33:43

Think you’re wrong there Maizie because I have no problem with people protesting about about anything. I dislike it when protests descend into violence which sometimes they do, but peaceful protest is an important tenet of our society. With regard to protests about leaving the EU, well it’s a done dog, isn’t it? We’ve left, despite us (many of us) not wanting to leave. The problem is as I mentioned, if we were to rejoin, what would the terms on rejoining be? It is in my opinion, pointless to protest that we should rejoin without any thought about the terms. Is it just rejoin, whatever the terms? Because in my opinion, that is unthinking. The terms would be fundamental to the possibility of rejoining. Since you yourself have frequently said that people voted leave without knowing exactly what leave would mean, it should follow that you would support rejoining only if the terms under which we would rejoin were known. At this point we have no idea of that, although we could guess it would mean joining the Euro, and therefore anyone joining that march was doing so completely uniformed. It just becomes dogma then. So pointless in my opinion.

MaizieD Sun 24-Sept-23 10:29:08

Do you know maddyone at all by any chance MaizieD?

maddyone and I have been posting on Gnet for much longer than you, Oreo. Like me, she posts quite a lot. I think you can get a pretty fair idea of what someone likes or dislikes from what they post on a topic without actually 'knowing' them in person. Especially if they are dripping with contempt for the post's subjects:

These protesters can’t have given proper thought to the manner in which we would rejoin if we were to rejoin. They’re protesting because they’ve got nothing better to do because they must know the protest will achieve nothing.

How does she 'know' that the protestors are ignorant of the issues and have nothing better to do? How very dismissive and unnecessary...

Maggiemaybe Sun 24-Sept-23 10:28:01

Aveline

Do any of these marches achieve anything other than being enjoyable for those attending? Re CND we still have nuclear weapons for example

I doubt it. I thoroughly enjoyed shaking my fist at the WASPI demos, and we did get several high profile politicians come out to support us, but no, I doubt it furthered the cause. One of them was on the same day as the biggest anti-Brexit march, which certainly did get publicity, unlike us. There’s only so much that can be reported on in the main news bulletins and in the scheme of things this rejoin march was small fry. Conspiracy theories about orders from above are plain daft imho.

The anti war marches were on a different level - so many people, millions, taking part all over the country. If any demo would have had an effect on government thinking, that would have. Such a shame it didn’t. angry

GrannyGravy13 Sun 24-Sept-23 10:14:17

There were three Right to Food marches in the U.K. yesterday (London, Liverpool & Belfast) haven’t seen any publicity/coverage of those either.

Kandinsky Sun 24-Sept-23 10:00:15

First I’d heard of it & I live in London.
The only protest my local news reported on was the dog ban one. Guess that’s more relevant at the moment.

TerriBull Sun 24-Sept-23 09:50:29

I remember sons going on the anti Iraq invasion march, which had a massive turnout, did all those who felt so strongly persuade the government to change tack. Not one bit! everything went ahead and led to the domino effect of displaced people and refugees throughout the Middle East, all based on massive untruths.

MayBee70 Sun 24-Sept-23 09:41:34

Maybe keeping things in people’s minds that governments wish to be brushed under the carpet. And, we might still have nuclear weapons but they haven’t (thus far ) been used. So no one knows what might have been if some people hadn’t shown their disapproval of them. And people, in general, like to push unpleasant things to the back of their mind; I know I do. Sometimes those things have to be brought out into the open. I didn’t go on the march for various reasons but one is that I feel the way forward is to rebuild our relationship with Europe. If that leads to rejoining the EU I’m happy with that, but it’s a long way down the line and sorting out the mess left by Brexit isn’t going to be immediately resolved by trying to rejoin. At the same time I don’t want people to forget the disruption, both financial and social, that Brexit has brought about.

Joseann Sun 24-Sept-23 09:38:03

Oreo

Am sure they all enjoyed the day Maybee70 and they were lucky to have sunny weather for it.

PS sunny here too! 😎

Joseann Sun 24-Sept-23 09:37:28

I hadn't heard anything about the Brexit march, but then I am away revelling in the entente cordiale, which this month is on a massive high across the channel.
Sometimes cross channel co-operation shows itself culturally as well as politically. Since we are all talking about what we did yesterday, I watched a small coastal town getting ready to receive nearly 35,000 visitors intent on promoting British cinema across France and mainland Europe. There was admittedly a post Brexit fear that the British film industry would entirely flop in Europe, and that more investment would be needed from Hollywood, but the number of union Jacks in town, and the arrival of wealthy cars here tells a different story.
Anyway, seeing as I wasn't in London to count the heads at the march, I thought I'd add my two euros worth from a different location. I am happy to have found something enjoyable to be doing, which also still shows that Brexit hasn't killed off all past pleasures.
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Aveline Sun 24-Sept-23 09:27:43

Do any of these marches achieve anything other than being enjoyable for those attending? Re CND we still have nuclear weapons for example

Oreo Sun 24-Sept-23 09:24:35

Am sure they all enjoyed the day Maybee70 and they were lucky to have sunny weather for it.

MayBee70 Sun 24-Sept-23 09:20:47

Imo there’s nothing more enjoyable than supporting a cause you believe in and being surrounded by like minded people. I still remember a CND march I went on in my youth and, had I not had young children at the time would have been at Greenham Common. It’s one thing writing letters and contributing financially to things we believe in but it’s empowering to be surrounded by complete strangers that you feel a bond with. And, I might add, that the pro EU marches are incident free and litter free, which is probably why they don’t make the news.

Oreo Sun 24-Sept-23 08:58:35

Do you know maddyone at all by any chance MaizieD?
Cos if not, where do you get off by saying ‘you just don’t like protestors, whatever they’re protesting about’.
It’s just your own over active imagination.
There will be causes that everyone cares about and many they don’t.
This particular one was a waste of time but if those that took part felt better for doing it then nobody is saying they shouldn’t have and good luck to them.Some of us have better and more enjoyable things to do on a Saturday, that’s all.

MaizieD Sun 24-Sept-23 08:49:44

Fp, I went on the last massive anti Brexit march, along with at least 1 million others. Also barely reported on. It's par for the course.

I would have gone on this one, but the spectre of covid is always around.