The National Trust is under attack

vintage1950

Sorry, should have said 'people of colour'. Certainly no offence meant!

Vintage1950
Most black people find POC offensive. They prefer to be called black.

Thanks, Primrose!

vintage1950

Sorry, should have said 'people of colour'. Certainly no offence meant!

Your post was lovely. No need to apologise. To be honest you need an app these days that updates hourly as to what is PC and what isn’t because that’s how quick things change. 🤣

I see no difference between “coloured” and “person of colour” anyway. Apparently “mixed race” is not PC anymore, it’s “dual heritage”. I can’t keep up.

Sorry, should have said 'people of colour'. Certainly no offence meant!

Personally I would like to see a NT which is not the cause of a Woke v Far Right debate. History is history. The NT’s job is to restore, maintain and preserve that history, not to cancel it or cause political arguments.
I feel the NT does not always do itself many favours. I recently called to cancel my husband’s membership as he had passed away suddenly just weeks after renewing. Apparently they do not give refunds, I can donate the cost or find someone else to pass his membership to. All his other membership fees have been refunded if I so wished.

TiggyW

Paperbackwriter - I don’t view myself as a bigot, but I wouldn’t wear a pride badge because it means nothing to me. I certainly wouldn’t work anywhere where I was forced to wear any badge which didn’t relate to the job.

How many times? No-one was forced to wear the badge!

I meant to say now it’s a NT property.

I visited Beatrix Potters cottage as a child. It was enchanting and you could see it just as it stood in its surroundings. Went back a few years ago and it’s all screened round, looking like any other tourist attraction and for me it ruined it. I didn’t bother going in.

Redgran18

@vintage1950. "Coloured people"? Good god. What century are you living in?

Bit unfair that. I must admit that I actually don’t know how to refer to people of colour these days. I don’t think think the poster was being offensive.

Paperbackwriter - I don’t view myself as a bigot, but I wouldn’t wear a pride badge because it means nothing to me. I certainly wouldn’t work anywhere where I was forced to wear any badge which didn’t relate to the job.

@vintage1950. "Coloured people"? Good god. What century are you living in?

Whitewavemark2

Farage and Mogg are attacking the NT and its aim of the protection/conservation of the land that it owns. The Trust lobby’s on the issue of nature and has been labelled as “woke” (do they know what it means) by the likes of Farage and Mogg.

This together with the Trusts various displays of historical displays about how slavery helped build so many of the houses that the Trust owns.

This group of ultra-conservative individuals are attempting to infiltrate the Trust in order to ensure it retreats back in time. What they don’t want is for the Trust to progress with time.

If you are a member and don’t like that people like Farage etc are trying to stop progress please ensure you cast your vote by the end of October.

I, along with many others actually stopped our subscriptions until the NT finally banned illegal fox hunting "disguised as trail hunting" on their land. For me, both Farage and Mogg do talk some sense on other matters, however, both, IMO, are really unpleasant men due to the fact they are avid supporters of fox hunting. Mogg's wife was the "Master" of their local hunt. Anyone who enjoys watching an animal running to the point of exhaustion only to be torn apart by dogs is absolutely vile.

"Absolutely ludicrous to expect people to wear badges or lanyards supporting something you feel no connection with or have no interest in."

How many times does it have to be said? There was NO compulsion to wear a rainbow badge or lanyard. But if people want to flounce out of the NT because of their personal distaste for same-sex relationships, then maybe the organisation is better off without such bigots?

I think it's high time for the NT to be split into at least two factions. I'd gladly join if my money were going towards coastal upkeep but I really don't want to fork out for renovating stately piles which all seem to end up fossilised into one chosen period whereas in reality all homes contain a mix of stuff and decor from many eras. I was horrified several years ago when I saw what they'd done to Ham House - it looked as if someone had gone through every page of the Jocasta Innes book of paint techniques. Not a surface was un-stippled or un-dragged. Awful (one or two nice fabrics though..)

I cancelled my membership because I didn't feel I was getting anything from it. Even the Free Parking was beginning to disappear. Everything was getting too expensive.

What about Barbary piracy?

Thank you for the heads up; I have voted and also publicised to friends .

History cannot be changed. We should learn from it.
Great houses are symbols of the past. They are "History". View them, and don't be bullied by modern propaganda. Look and learn.
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People tend to forget that Britain led the world in abolishing slavery.

Should we not concentrate on slavery in the modern world? It still goes on.

It's not under attack, and I recommend eg Phillip Merrick who runs eg Elmley nature reserve..

What does 'woke' mean for goodness sake...

I'm getting fed up of all the moaning going on on the subject of slavery.

Yes, it was an awful time and a terrible think to happen. But no-one alive today had anything to do with it, there is nothing that we can do to make it go away.

As for the 33trillion that someone is asking for in reparations, why should we pay it, the British were the ones majorly responsible for end it.

We'll give you 33 trillion, you give us 35 trillion for ending it and setting the slaves free.

That's pretty bad isn't it treetops not surprising though. Whenever an organisation becomes a company beholden to its shareholders it behaves like this.
It was always said that if you left property to the NT there had to be a hefty legacy with it for running costs or it could be sold.

I must admit the NT isn't popular where I live. Somewhere in the mists of time a gentleman left a water meadow to the people of our town. It was later handed to the Trust, but 4 years ago they decided to sell it, to help maintain their local headquarters and grounds.

It had been used by the town for dogwalking, playing and had some amazing nature. They sold it anyway, as they have to do 'their best for the trust generally, not just for the town it was left to'.

After a battle with the developers it has been listed as an open green space for the town...but I doubt anyone locally will leave anything to the NT for the foreseeable future.

They want to allow hunting, whoops I mean exercising hounds, again too

I decided to look further into the fundraising monies for 2019/20 and 2020/21. M0nica's figures can be found on page 17 of the 2020/21 report. There is a sort of breakdown given but it doesn't add up to £79 million. There are actually 106 pages of the report in total, should anyone be interested in reading its entirety.