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Peter Bone

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 16-Oct-23 19:02:34

Good grief. He was even made deputy leader of the house when he was under investigation.

Will there be any Tories left who aren’t sexual predators!!?

Iam64 Thu 19-Oct-23 20:10:27

Greyisnotmycolour

When has any politician or public figure said "Fair cop Gov, I did it"? All of them not guilty ever, all allegations fabricated nonsense. There's so many ...Johnathon Aiken, Jeffrey Archer, Cecil Parkinson, John Stonehouse, Neil Hamilton ...this is just off the top of my head, the list goes on and on. It'd be so refreshing if they just admitted it.

It’s the same with sex offenders outside Westminster. Deny, deflect, blame the victim - deny

Milliedog Thu 19-Oct-23 20:06:09

It's not just confined to the Conservative party.....I can remember reading about Keith Vaz. And if you Google 'Labour disgraced MPs,' there's quite a long list. There are many good and moral MPs, but in every party there will be some who you would ban from taking your daughter out!

MayBee70 Thu 19-Oct-23 20:04:26

In 1922 he was Deputy Leader of the House of Commons because of his unwavering support of Johnson.

Greyisnotmycolour Thu 19-Oct-23 17:28:01

When has any politician or public figure said "Fair cop Gov, I did it"? All of them not guilty ever, all allegations fabricated nonsense. There's so many ...Johnathon Aiken, Jeffrey Archer, Cecil Parkinson, John Stonehouse, Neil Hamilton ...this is just off the top of my head, the list goes on and on. It'd be so refreshing if they just admitted it.

Casdon Thu 19-Oct-23 17:16:31

Chardy

Oreo

Casdon

I don’t know what it is that MPs think makes them immune from normal sanctions if they behave inappropriately. I can’t bring myself to gloat about it though, as this could just as easily be a politician from any of the other parties -= so many MPs seem to be equally vile in this respect.

I agree, no point in gloating as next week it could easily be a Labour MP.It happens with many of them with a worrying regularity doesn't it.☹️

Tories were beating Labour 10-4 in the sexual misconduct stakes last year

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/18/list-of-sexual-misconduct-allegations-made-against-mps

It’s not a competition though, and next year it could easily be the other way round. I’m a Labour supporter, but I’m also realistic, there’s nothing inherent in being a Tory MP that makes them more likely to be sleazeballs, it’s a trait that’s indiscriminate.

Chardy Thu 19-Oct-23 16:20:37

Oreo

Casdon

I don’t know what it is that MPs think makes them immune from normal sanctions if they behave inappropriately. I can’t bring myself to gloat about it though, as this could just as easily be a politician from any of the other parties -= so many MPs seem to be equally vile in this respect.

I agree, no point in gloating as next week it could easily be a Labour MP.It happens with many of them with a worrying regularity doesn't it.☹️

Tories were beating Labour 10-4 in the sexual misconduct stakes last year

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/18/list-of-sexual-misconduct-allegations-made-against-mps

PamQS Thu 19-Oct-23 13:19:58

Ilovecheese

Ah yes, didn't he vote against making "upskirting" a crime.

As the saying goes, ‘If someone shows you who they are, believe them!’

He’s the one who used to endlessly quote the wisdom of his wife ‘Mrs Bone’, but sadly they split up (I assume it was sad for one of them!) He was tolerated as a mild eccentric by the last Speaker.

glammagran Thu 19-Oct-23 12:21:09

I really don’t think that this kind of predation is in any way linked to which colour your politics are. Labour MP’s do this kind of thing too. Thinking of Alec Dyer-Atkins, Keith Vaz, Mike Hill, Geraint Davies and Eric Joyce to name a few. Doesn’t matter who they are - their behaviour was vile.

MayBee70 Thu 19-Oct-23 12:13:07

I’ve always got him mixed up with Cash and Chope and felt he must be aggrieved that he, unlike them, has never been made a ‘sir’.

Jaxie Thu 19-Oct-23 12:02:02

Men at the mercy of their sexuality mixed with power and a sense of entitlement. Sickening.

Grantanow Thu 19-Oct-23 11:57:29

Another backwoodsman down. Hurrah!

pascal30 Tue 17-Oct-23 16:54:54

He sounds,from the report, like a deeply unpleasant man..,, a bully and a cheat

Whitewavemark2 Tue 17-Oct-23 16:34:46

Yes it is definitely something to do with the help to buy scheme fiddling.

MayBee70 Tue 17-Oct-23 16:27:51

‘Although Bone was not mentioned in the 2009 Legg Report that was central to the official investigation into the United Kingdom parliamentary expenses scandal and therefore was not one of the 343 MPs required to pay back any money,[16] he was subject to some later reports relating to his expenses. He was one of 32 MPs who claimed the maximum allowance of £4,800 a year for food in 2010[17] and came under investigation in 2014 for expenses claims relating to the upkeep of his second home.[18] In 2016 he was criticised for using the government's help-to-buy scheme, which was meant to help young first time buyers, to buy himself a new constituency home.[19]’
This is from Wikipedia so I can’t vouch for how true it is. He voted against the upskirting bill. I’ve seen him day in day out when watching parliament and have to admit to disliking him immensely. He’s in the 1922 committee which is probably how his misdemeanours have been ignored for so long.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 17-Oct-23 16:17:58

What is the issue with his wife and houses?

Iam64 Tue 17-Oct-23 15:22:20

If only our criminal justice system could ensure people like Bone could be prosecuted.
Even when rape or other forms of sexual abuse are brought to Court, the absence of corroborative evidence results in the jury being directed against conviction. That’s why the young man previously convicted of multiple rapes of a 13 year old girl, had his conviction squashed.

The balance of probabilities in civil cases can help protect children

Anniebach Tue 17-Oct-23 13:52:50

Thank you Casdon

Casdon Tue 17-Oct-23 13:50:49

Anniebach

Is sexual misconduct the same as sexual assault?

I’m not a legal expert, but I’d say no. Sexual misconduct could for example be people found having sex in the workplace consensually. I haven’t seen a report that Bone sexually assaulted the alleged victim physically, but he intimated him by exposing himself.

Anniebach Tue 17-Oct-23 13:44:04

Is sexual misconduct the same as sexual assault?

Casdon Tue 17-Oct-23 13:41:03

Anniebach

Guilty of sexual assault, which is a crime, but not charged!

Bullying constitutes misconduct, and was witnessed on numerous occasions according to the report. It’s up to the alleged victim whether or not to report sexual misconduct to the police, not up to the employer.

Anniebach Tue 17-Oct-23 13:18:47

Thank you Jaberwok seems misconduct in the workplace is the same as sexual assault

Anniebach Tue 17-Oct-23 13:16:41

Guilty of sexual assault, which is a crime, but not charged!

Casdon Tue 17-Oct-23 13:05:04

You don’t have to be tried in a court of law to be found, after investigation, to be guilty of gross misconduct in your role, and receive the appropriate disciplinary action, up to and including dismissal in any other organisation. I don’t see why MPs should be any different.

Ilovecheese Tue 17-Oct-23 12:59:48

But he has been judged guilty by his peers.

Jaberwok Tue 17-Oct-23 12:53:06

Annie, you are quite right,it should be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but that's not he case on here I'm afraid. All political party's have their suspicious /creepy apples, even the sainted SNP,but until they are convicted in a court of law, people should keep an open mind.