Johnson goes to Israel!

This thread is not about Blair- but about Johnson going to Israel- in what capacity, in whose name?

maddyone

The Chilcot Inquiry was a whitewash. Blair should never have been absolved of anything.

Blair's central error in Iraq was certainty based on poor advice from MI6 not persondeceit.

On Chilcot, the Financial Times reported, 'Every previous inquiry into Britain's decision to invade Iraq has swiftly been condemned by the public as a "whitewash". Such a description hardly applies to the monumental inquest that has been published by Sir John Chilcot. ... After Lord Hutton's report in 2003 and the Butler report the following year, the one thing Sir John could not have afforded to produce was another report that was dismissed as a whitewash.'

Obviously people will believe what they want to believe.

The Chilcot Inquiry was a whitewash. Blair should never have been absolved of anything.

Not quite, Glorianny. The Iraq Inquiry by Chilcot absolved Blair whereas the Covid Inquiry thus far shows BoJo was inept and presided over a chaotic and toxic No. 10. It is true that both have raised money after their period in office, as did Thatcher, but Blair and Thatcher created charitable foundations whereas BoJo seems to need money for current expenses to support a wife who likes expensive wallpaper and his children by various women. Not quite the same.

Blair, like many another before and after him, was (and is) corrupted by power.

Grantanow

Comparisons of Blair and BoJo are wide of the mark. Blair was re-elected with a substantial majority after the Iraq war (much to the chagrin of the noisy Left) and had a significant record of achievement (trashed by the Corbynites). BoJo has been dumped by the Tories after the Downing Street parties during Covid were revealed despite his denials and the Covid Inquiry is revealing the utter chaos in government over which he presided. No comparison at all.

Oh I don't know. Both needed major inquiries after they were PM. Both seem to be money grabbers. Both left their party a wreck. Both seem to think they are able to fix anything in spite of evidence to the contrary.

Comparisons of Blair and BoJo are wide of the mark. Blair was re-elected with a substantial majority after the Iraq war (much to the chagrin of the noisy Left) and had a significant record of achievement (trashed by the Corbynites). BoJo has been dumped by the Tories after the Downing Street parties during Covid were revealed despite his denials and the Covid Inquiry is revealing the utter chaos in government over which he presided. No comparison at all.

Anniel

So Maybee Tony Blair gets that pension and has a huge amount of money! Why pick on Botis? I do not care about him but in this casd i cannot see why you are complaining?Going to Israel is not exactly glamorous. The ex Australian foreign minister Scott Morrison is also there. Maybe showing moral support and they were not meeting Netanahu )(spelling?) Do give up this constant carry on about Boris. Let him fade away if that is possible.

Scott Morrison was the Australian Prime Minister until last year. He held various Ministerial offices but not Foreign Minister as far as I'm aware. I could be wrong.

Do give up this constant carry on about Boris. Let him fade away if that is possible
Not easy when he is constantly in the spotlight for one reason or another.

He’s probably claiming it from Public Duty Costs Allowance (PDCA), which all former Prime Ministers can use. I agree with OP, it’s totally inappropriate for him to be going to Israel.

Anniel

So Maybee Tony Blair gets that pension and has a huge amount of money! Why pick on Botis? I do not care about him but in this casd i cannot see why you are complaining?Going to Israel is not exactly glamorous. The ex Australian foreign minister Scott Morrison is also there. Maybe showing moral support and they were not meeting Netanahu )(spelling?) Do give up this constant carry on about Boris. Let him fade away if that is possible.

So he’s in the news because he’s been to Israel. And he’s going to be on GB News. He isn’t exactly fading away, is he.

montymops

The Covid inquiry is descending into finger pointing gossip. The real practical issues which may help in any future pandemic are not being addressed. Daniel Hannan writes a very interesting article in last Sundays Telegraph which is quite supportive of Boris.

‘Finger pointing’
You’re having a laugh

So Maybee Tony Blair gets that pension and has a huge amount of money! Why pick on Botis? I do not care about him but in this casd i cannot see why you are complaining?Going to Israel is not exactly glamorous. The ex Australian foreign minister Scott Morrison is also there. Maybe showing moral support and they were not meeting Netanahu )(spelling?) Do give up this constant carry on about Boris. Let him fade away if that is possible.

But we’re paying for his security. And, of course, he has the ex PM’s pension that Thatcher arranged for ex PM’s to have.

For goodness sake ofcourse we are not paying for his trip! Sunsk is not exactly his mate! He may be going ro write about yhe conflict and accordng to my latest tory neesletter most of us support Israel so it does not surprise me. Shame there is not a thread about the pro Palestinians clogging up London on a daily basis. Do any of these people have jobs? To me Armistice day is a special occasion and the majority of the population will not mind if the march is banned on that day. It is sn outrage that they could spoil this solemn and moving occasion. This city is London not Islamabad! Boris is a busted flush and does not need any publicity!

rowyn

I find this gossipy speculative and very subjective discussion inappropriate and offensive,

I quite agree.

Valchoc, you cannot serious in asking if someone on Gransnet could do a better job than Boris.
A little churlish.
I might suggest you listen carefully to the evidence from the Covid Enquiry and see if you still admire and defend Johnson.

The Covid inquiry is descending into finger pointing gossip. The real practical issues which may help in any future pandemic are not being addressed. Daniel Hannan writes a very interesting article in last Sundays Telegraph which is quite supportive of Boris.

pascal30

I despair

Haven't they got enough problems already without the blonde buffoon making things worse!

Mr.Johnson has made a statement aired on i24 should be available on Utube.

valchoc

HAVING READ all your comments I feel compelled to say Could Aby of you do a better job than Boris ?

I assume that is a joke.

HAVING READ all your comments I feel compelled to say Could Aby of you do a better job than Boris ?

Bella23

Maybe he has gone to block a Hamas tunnel, he likes to be in the limelight he won't be able to resist if they show him one.
Just picture him stuck half out with his fluffy duckling hair spouting something Churchilian. Maybe Carrie has suggested it as a good holiday spot for him and a bit of peace for her. He certainly won't be helping bring about peace.

😂

If Israel wanted to commit genocide it would have done so the week after 7th October.

fancythat

* The issue the majority is struggling with is when does defence stop and genocide begin.*

That is what I am beginning to think.

When you’ve cut off the head of the snake.

Well said fancythat. 👍