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Braverman’s Revenge😄

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 14-Nov-23 16:58:27

Letter sent to Sunak, further details to be updated.

So far.

“Your plan is not working”

Callistemon21 Wed 15-Nov-23 23:08:34

I guess all the above are acceptable because they were all said or written by James Watson, who was awarded a Nobel Prize for his work on the molecular structure of DNA. He is (or was) a brilliant academic
But owed much of his success to Rosalind Franklin who received little credit for her work because she was a woman.

spabbygirl Wed 15-Nov-23 22:55:14

I'd much rather have a general election, but since we can't at least we can enjoy watching the tories fight like rats in a sack

growstuff Wed 15-Nov-23 22:54:27

ronib

MayBee70 History does not find that Enoch Powell was racist. In reality Powell was a brilliant academic it seems.

Written about Rosalind Franklin:
“I suspect that in the beginning Maurice hoped that Rosy would calm down. Yet mere inspection suggested that she would not easily bend. By choice she did not emphasize her feminine qualities. Though her features were strong, she was not unattractive and might have been quite stunning had she taken even a mild interest in clothes. This she did not. There was never lipstick to contrast with her straight black hair, while at the age of thirty-one her dresses showed all the imagination of English blue-stocking adolescents. So it was quite easy to imagine her the product of an unsatisfied mother who unduly stressed the desirability of professional careers that could save bright girls from marriages to dull men.”

“During an interview, I was asked about homosexuality and I related a story about a woman who felt her life had been ruined because her son was a homosexual and she would never have grandchildren. I simply said that women in that situation should have a choice over whether or not to abort. I didn’t say that fetuses found to have a gay gene should be aborted.”

“People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would be great.”

“Some anti-Semitism is justified. Just like some anti-Irish feeling is justified. If you can’t be criticized, that’s very dangerous.”

“I think having all these women around makes it more fun for the men but they’re probably less effective.”

I guess all the above are acceptable because they were all said or written by James Watson, who was awarded a Nobel Prize for his work on the molecular structure of DNA. He is (or was) a brilliant academic. hmm

growstuff Wed 15-Nov-23 22:46:52

ronib

Growstuff Piers Corbyn is not barmy.

I guess that's a matter of opinion.

Casdon Wed 15-Nov-23 22:26:12

Primrose53

MayBee70

Primrose53

MayBee70

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Who is she racist towards?

She is of Mauritian/Kenyan heritage and married to a South African Jew.

And that’s why she gets away with it…she can’t possibly be racist because…..

You didn’t answer my question. MayBe70
Who is she racist towards?

People with African heritage.

Fleurpepper Wed 15-Nov-23 22:18:19

Primrose53

MayBee70

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Who is she racist towards?

She is of Mauritian/Kenyan heritage and married to a South African Jew.

And what difference does this make? Looking at history, and not only in UK, second and thrid generation immigrants are often the worst.

Primrose53 Wed 15-Nov-23 22:15:17

MayBee70

Primrose53

MayBee70

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Who is she racist towards?

She is of Mauritian/Kenyan heritage and married to a South African Jew.

And that’s why she gets away with it…she can’t possibly be racist because…..

You didn’t answer my question. MayBe70
Who is she racist towards?

ronib Wed 15-Nov-23 21:48:03

Growstuff Piers Corbyn is not barmy.

Oreo Wed 15-Nov-23 21:26:00

Like a lot of politicians who either resign or are sacked, they tend to make a comeback a while later, so am sure SB will return at some point, she seems to have a lot of support.
After all if David Cameron can come back then anything can happen.😲

MayBee70 Wed 15-Nov-23 21:18:32

Primrose53

MayBee70

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Who is she racist towards?

She is of Mauritian/Kenyan heritage and married to a South African Jew.

And that’s why she gets away with it…she can’t possibly be racist because…..

growstuff Wed 15-Nov-23 21:15:50

ronib

MayBee70 History does not find that Enoch Powell was racist. In reality Powell was a brilliant academic it seems.

Even brilliant academics can be racist.

Brilliant academics can also be quite barmy. Did you know that Piers Corbyn has a First in physics from Imperial College?

growstuff Wed 15-Nov-23 21:14:04

Primrose53

MayBee70

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Who is she racist towards?

She is of Mauritian/Kenyan heritage and married to a South African Jew.

So what? Mauritians, Kenyans and South Africans can all be racist.

Iam64 Wed 15-Nov-23 20:29:31

Dickens 😏👍🏻😂

Dickens Wed 15-Nov-23 20:25:38

Callistemon21

NotSpaghetti

I think he did it by 'phone - because he's a coward....

Or maybe she refused to go in?

Or perhaps he thought, if he invited her to No. 10 she'd heave him out and barricade herself in?

Or perhaps he thought, if he invited her to No. 10 she'd heave him out and barricade herself in?

grin grin

ronib Wed 15-Nov-23 15:30:03

Iam64

Which history would that be

friedmanomics.co.uk
Has history got Enoch Powell wrong?
David Harrop
Interesting read

Iam64 Wed 15-Nov-23 15:14:23

Which history would that be

Callistemon21 Wed 15-Nov-23 15:13:54

NotSpaghetti

^I think he did it by 'phone - because he's a coward.^...

Or maybe she refused to go in?

Or perhaps he thought, if he invited her to No. 10 she'd heave him out and barricade herself in?

Casdon Wed 15-Nov-23 15:13:52

ronib

MayBee70 History does not find that Enoch Powell was racist. In reality Powell was a brilliant academic it seems.

I don’t know what version of history you’re referring to ronib? This sums it up very well.
www.opendemocracy.net/uk/gerry-hassan/enoch-powell-s-ghost-and-bigotry-still-haunts-modern-britain

ronib Wed 15-Nov-23 15:02:02

MayBee70 History does not find that Enoch Powell was racist. In reality Powell was a brilliant academic it seems.

Primrose53 Wed 15-Nov-23 15:01:19

MayBee70

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Who is she racist towards?

She is of Mauritian/Kenyan heritage and married to a South African Jew.

MayBee70 Wed 15-Nov-23 12:47:44

I know I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes but today, whilst ruminating on the possibility of Braverman becoming leader of the opposition after the next election, it suddenly dawned on me that she could actually, at this moment in time have been the unelected PM of this country. Imo she’s the most racist MP since Enoch Powell.

Dickens Wed 15-Nov-23 11:00:33

ronib

Anyone read the Guardian’s headline for today? Inflation rate is tumbling?
Whose side are they on?

... maybe the side of just reporting the news?

Phillip Inman - Economics Editor and Writer - has given the view from all sides... Labour, the government, and the Institute of Chartered Accountants.

Isn't that what we want - unbiased reporting?

NotSpaghetti Wed 15-Nov-23 10:29:22

Bella23 - lots of us think she's delusional.

He kept her close - until that became impossible “Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.”

She is constantly posturing to be leader. Odious woman in my opinion.

Bella23 Wed 15-Nov-23 09:20:56

What I questioned is how you can write a letter of "resignation" as everyone is calling it when you have already been sacked whether by mouth or telephone.
If you have been sacked you can't then resign.
Is she so delusional that she does not recognise what she has been told before she wrote the letter? One could question her take on any situation.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 15-Nov-23 09:08:13

Mamie

Well the government was always very keen to say that inflation was nothing to do with them so not sure they can claim any credit here.....

What they have done to prevent it going up any further is to delay - yet again (the 5th time I think) the Brexit implementations on our borders.

So it is what they haven’t done rather than what they have done☺️