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The European Parliament has given the green light to changing the EU treaties

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Callistemon21 Wed 22-Nov-23 22:02:33

CoolCoco

A narrow majority voted for Brexit and that hasn’t exactly been a titanic success. Supporters claimed the EU was in collapse and others were envious of the U.K. really??

Success or not, the right decision or not, we should support majority voting in principle.

CoolCoco Wed 22-Nov-23 21:37:51

A narrow majority voted for Brexit and that hasn’t exactly been a titanic success. Supporters claimed the EU was in collapse and others were envious of the U.K. really??

Oreo Wed 22-Nov-23 21:03:03

Would only have been 275 against if we had still been in the EU.

Callistemon21 Wed 22-Nov-23 20:59:54

growstuff

Oreo

Mamie

This is from the article in the link.

"Moving to qualified majority voting in almost all policy areas;
Incorporating a Social Progress Protocol into the Treaties;
New shared competence on public health matters;
New exclusive competence on the fight against climate change;
No more unanimity voting on harmonising direct and indirect taxation;
More effective procedure in Article 7 TEU, with a new proposed qualified majority to submit a request for an ECJ decision for breaches of EU values. The European Parliament should also play a proactive role.
New legal basis to fight against all types of discrimination;
Stronger legal basis to fight against gender-based violence and environmental crime."

Hmm, sounds like it may have been a good idea to leave the EU after all.
I voted to remain but it looks like the Brexiters were right about what the EU was trying to achieve.

But but but if the UK were still a member, it would have had the right to vote against any new proposals.

And would have lost if they had, although they may have voted for the proposals, of course.

Callistemon21 Wed 22-Nov-23 20:58:21

Mamie

Do some people on here not support majority voting in principle then? What would the reasons be for that?

Do you mean not agreeing with Brexit? That majority vote in the referendum?

GrannyGravy13 Wed 22-Nov-23 19:33:09

DaisyAnneReturns

Where is GrannyGravys OP from. There seems to be no source information. If tha3t's the case it's been made up although for what purpose, who knows ?

Definitely not made up, it was a vote in the European Parliament today, Google is your friend.

growstuff Wed 22-Nov-23 19:05:55

Oreo

Mamie

This is from the article in the link.

"Moving to qualified majority voting in almost all policy areas;
Incorporating a Social Progress Protocol into the Treaties;
New shared competence on public health matters;
New exclusive competence on the fight against climate change;
No more unanimity voting on harmonising direct and indirect taxation;
More effective procedure in Article 7 TEU, with a new proposed qualified majority to submit a request for an ECJ decision for breaches of EU values. The European Parliament should also play a proactive role.
New legal basis to fight against all types of discrimination;
Stronger legal basis to fight against gender-based violence and environmental crime."

Hmm, sounds like it may have been a good idea to leave the EU after all.
I voted to remain but it looks like the Brexiters were right about what the EU was trying to achieve.

But but but if the UK were still a member, it would have had the right to vote against any new proposals.

Mamie Wed 22-Nov-23 18:48:59

Do some people on here not support majority voting in principle then? What would the reasons be for that?

Oreo Wed 22-Nov-23 18:31:36

Mamie

This is from the article in the link.

"Moving to qualified majority voting in almost all policy areas;
Incorporating a Social Progress Protocol into the Treaties;
New shared competence on public health matters;
New exclusive competence on the fight against climate change;
No more unanimity voting on harmonising direct and indirect taxation;
More effective procedure in Article 7 TEU, with a new proposed qualified majority to submit a request for an ECJ decision for breaches of EU values. The European Parliament should also play a proactive role.
New legal basis to fight against all types of discrimination;
Stronger legal basis to fight against gender-based violence and environmental crime."

Hmm, sounds like it may have been a good idea to leave the EU after all.
I voted to remain but it looks like the Brexiters were right about what the EU was trying to achieve.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 22-Nov-23 18:23:59

Where is GrannyGravys OP from. There seems to be no source information. If tha3t's the case it's been made up although for what purpose, who knows ?

Mamie Wed 22-Nov-23 17:27:19

This is from the article in the link.

"Moving to qualified majority voting in almost all policy areas;
Incorporating a Social Progress Protocol into the Treaties;
New shared competence on public health matters;
New exclusive competence on the fight against climate change;
No more unanimity voting on harmonising direct and indirect taxation;
More effective procedure in Article 7 TEU, with a new proposed qualified majority to submit a request for an ECJ decision for breaches of EU values. The European Parliament should also play a proactive role.
New legal basis to fight against all types of discrimination;
Stronger legal basis to fight against gender-based violence and environmental crime."

GrannyGravy13 Wed 22-Nov-23 16:59:00

It intends to do away with individual countries vetoes.

Closer links leading to uniformity in taxes and defence amongst other policies.

Mamie Wed 22-Nov-23 16:48:26

As far as I can see it is about moving to majority voting from unanimity?

Mamie Wed 22-Nov-23 16:46:27

I can only find this.
www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/newsroom/sd-group-supports-targeted-eu-treaty-change
The details are there.

growstuff Wed 22-Nov-23 16:35:53

Callistemon21

^So^?

That is a huge proposed development, not just a So!

Well, it would be handy to know what the changes would mean in practice.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-Nov-23 16:31:41

Can someone give me a link please, as I can’t find it

Thanks in advance
😘

Callistemon21 Wed 22-Nov-23 16:18:40

So?

That is a huge proposed development, not just a So!

vegansrock Wed 22-Nov-23 15:24:03

So? It’s an elected parliament so can vote to change things if a majority are in agreement.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 22-Nov-23 15:15:07

291 MEP’s supported the plan to federalise the EU and limit the sovereignty of member states.

274 were against