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James Cleverly….

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MayBee70 Thu 23-Nov-23 18:39:33

‘Labour claims home secretary was ‘seen and heard’ making disparaging comment about Co Durham seat

Aubrey Allegretti, Chief Political Correspondent
James Cleverly has denied calling Stockton North a “sh*****e” after concerns were raised about child poverty in the Co Durham seat.
Alex Cunningham, the local Labour MP, said the home secretary was “seen and heard” making the comment in the House of Commons.
In video footage it was unclear where the outburst came from but Labour insiders said it was picked up by a microphone and that it was Cleverly’.
This was from The Times.So, did he or didn’t he? Penny Mordaunt said he doesn’t need to apologise because he says he didn’t say it. Latest I’ve heard was that he wasn’t referring to Stockton itself but about the Labour Party

Casdon Sat 02-Dec-23 17:03:59

I’m sorry I didn’t mean to sound stuffy and snooty. I just really hate it when people in high profile jobs, who have the eyes of the whole country on them can’t behave in a professional way. There was so much public furore when Brown’s mask slipped, because such carelessness was not commonplace then, whereas now it would appear that anything goes.

Oreo Sat 02-Dec-23 16:53:25

Different standards? Oh dear that does sound stuffy and snooty.
😁
MP’s are human as the rest of us.Brown didn’t go down in my estimation, he just didn’t realise about the mike being on.
If that was the least that MP’s did it would be alright.
When Labour get in next year as I hope they will,there’s bound to be some comment by Angela Raynor that gets picked up on a mike somewhere.

Casdon Sat 02-Dec-23 16:42:43

We must have different standards Oreo, because referring to somebody in such derogatory terms is unacceptable to me, whether muttered or not, it was heard. Gordon Brown went down in my estimation when he was overheard on the microphone muttering that somebody was a bigoted woman - and any MP worth his or her salt should have learned from the fallout from that incident. Cleverley’s remark was more offensive. Standards in public life are important.

Oreo Sat 02-Dec-23 16:33:50

Well, they’ve been ignoring it for years I expect, I don’t know anyone who is in the least bothered by this storm in a teacup.
What’s changed is that MP’s forget that words get picked up by microphones.
If they were shouting all sorts at each other it would be different, but a mutter is a bit of a non story in my view.
You should hear what some MP’s in other countries do yell at each other.Eye popping.😲

Casdon Sat 02-Dec-23 16:26:16

Oreo

Come on people, do you think MP’s of any political party always talk like a radio presenter?
Tbh it isn’t at all clear what he did or didn’t say.They all mutter all sorts of stuff at each other from both sides.
The Stockton MP is bound to get on his high horse about it as he’ll be worried what some of the Stockton people may say about it. With all the stuff going on in the world can anyone here really bother about this sort of stuff.

Cleverley admitted when he made his apology to saying sh…..e, but he said that he was referring to the MP not the place. I’ve never heard that word used for a person before, hole is a place, face is a person in that context. Either way, he showed himself up again in response to a perfectly polite question from an opposition MP, I don’t think that can be disputed. If you seriously think people are going to ignore unnecessarily derogatory, offensive language Oreo you’re wrong - standards of behaviour in parliament need to drastically improve to regain public trust.

Oreo Sat 02-Dec-23 16:08:56

You must all have A1 hearing, cos I couldn’t make it properly or who said it.

Oreo Sat 02-Dec-23 16:07:09

Come on people, do you think MP’s of any political party always talk like a radio presenter?
Tbh it isn’t at all clear what he did or didn’t say.They all mutter all sorts of stuff at each other from both sides.
The Stockton MP is bound to get on his high horse about it as he’ll be worried what some of the Stockton people may say about it. With all the stuff going on in the world can anyone here really bother about this sort of stuff.

Oreo Sat 02-Dec-23 16:01:30

MayBee70

So that’s it then. Cleverly says he wasn’t referring to Stockton on Tees when he said sh*****e although he now admits that he said it after trying to get away with it.
Deputy Speaker says matter is now closed. Speaker (weakest Speaker I’ve ever known) didn’t even have the decency to preside over it. Matter isn’t over as far as I’m concerned.

What are you going to do? 😁

Grantanow Sat 02-Dec-23 14:46:41

Unkind to snakes!!

NotSpaghetti Mon 27-Nov-23 21:31:12

No, he apologised for what he "didn't say"

MayBee70 Mon 27-Nov-23 21:00:46

Did he actually apologise?

NotSpaghetti Mon 27-Nov-23 20:52:42

Of course, the Rwanda policy has been described as "batshit" by him.
Maybe this is just how he talks.

Oldbat1 Mon 27-Nov-23 20:51:38

Today in the House of Commons just watching James Cleverly his body language along with his feeble attempt at apologising to “the house”. Then the Deputy Speaker saying the matter is now closed!

Iam64 Mon 27-Nov-23 20:33:35

Good description urmston

Urmstongran Mon 27-Nov-23 20:32:34

I don’t like him. I think he’s a duplicitous snake.

Iam64 Mon 27-Nov-23 20:26:10

I don’t see how anyone can believe him. TV and radio ensured we all heard him say it. He’s playing right into the hands of those who say ‘you can’t believe anything they say, they’re all liars ‘

foxie48 Mon 27-Nov-23 20:23:39

Does anyone believe Cleverly? I certainly don't and what a way for a Home Secretary to conduct himself!

MayBee70 Mon 27-Nov-23 19:41:47

So that’s it then. Cleverly says he wasn’t referring to Stockton on Tees when he said sh*****e although he now admits that he said it after trying to get away with it.
Deputy Speaker says matter is now closed. Speaker (weakest Speaker I’ve ever known) didn’t even have the decency to preside over it. Matter isn’t over as far as I’m concerned.

MayBee70 Mon 27-Nov-23 13:59:21

Someone needs to set up James Cleverly plaques, like the blue plaque ones. There’s a place down the road from us called Shilbottle, the sign to which gets amended on a regular basis.

Casdon Mon 27-Nov-23 13:38:38

Grantanow

Set me wondering which UK town would win the James Cleverly Prize.

Braintree, obviously!

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 27-Nov-23 12:42:01

😁 Grantanow!

Grantanow Mon 27-Nov-23 09:30:02

Set me wondering which UK town would win the James Cleverly Prize.

MayBee70 Sat 25-Nov-23 21:07:44

It’ll just get buried. I’m going to write to the Speaker again if it does.

lixy Sat 25-Nov-23 21:04:17

Saddened by this - I read an article written by his wife a while ago and thought he could possibly be one of the good guys. I really hope it becomes clear one way or the other soon as the ongoing suspicion does more damage than the truth.

Iam64 Sat 25-Nov-23 20:42:56

He seems to be a short tempered fibber with a potty mouth