Omid Scobie - Endgame.

That allows for many inaccuracies then. Nuances may well vary according to one's choice of vocabulary and writing style.
Pulp fiction!

Joseann

I'm a bit confused, but haven't checked it out yet. I'm sure publishers know what they're doing, but
the two Dutch translstors were Dutch natives - Saskia Peeters and Nellie Keukelaar-van Rijsbergern. They translated Omid Scobie's words which I assume were in English. In my experience, translators always translate from their own mother tongue as this ensures accuracy and authenticity. I don't think you cannot totally produce all the cultural nuances if you are translating from a second language, even if you are bilingual?
Just talking to myself here!

Fiction translators translate to their mother tongue.

I understand what you’re saying Joseann, but surely if the king and Catherine are named, then they’re named.

10 o'clock news. The Palace responds!!

merlotgran

Boz

Doesn't the Markle sister have a book out soon; can't imagine it will be very flattering to the Sussex pair who will not be Californian dreaming for much longer.

I can’t keep up with all these books I’m not going to read. 😂

😂😂😂

Presumably the manuscript which was translated into Dutch is still in existence?

* I don't think you can ..

I'm a bit confused, but haven't checked it out yet. I'm sure publishers know what they're doing, but
the two Dutch translstors were Dutch natives - Saskia Peeters and Nellie Keukelaar-van Rijsbergern. They translated Omid Scobie's words which I assume were in English. In my experience, translators always translate from their own mother tongue as this ensures accuracy and authenticity. I don't think you cannot totally produce all the cultural nuances if you are translating from a second language, even if you are bilingual?
Just talking to myself here!

Merlotgran

Boz

Doesn't the Markle sister have a book out soon; can't imagine it will be very flattering to the Sussex pair who will not be Californian dreaming for much longer.

I can’t keep up with all these books I’m not going to read. 😂

Apparently the Dutch translator says the two names were definitely in the manuscript.

Scobie says they weren’t.

I know who I believe.

If you want to find racism badly enough eazybee you'll find it, and if you can't you can always fabricate it.

The silence from the RF is deafening and I have nothing but admiration for them all. Keeping silent and maybe hoping that if they give H & M enough metaphorical rope, they'll hang themselves.

They built the scaffold with the Oprah interview. H hung the rope with spare and I suspect Scobie's made the noose with Endgame.

Oh I agree they will continue to dish the dirt and relate it to Harry's 'tough time' but it will become more distant and less relevant as they are less and less a part of British life.

Really, who cares if the royal family did speculate about the skin tone of the latest baby; it is what thousands of families do without any malice every day. A half-Indian friend speculated on the subject with me at the time; her children were all olive skinned and dark-haired; her sibling, married to a Scot with freckled skin and sandy hair had one child like her, one like him, and she was curious as to how it would be with H & M. Nothing remotely racist.

I thought Harry went too far in Spare saying what a difficult life Charlotte and Louis would have in the future feeling inferior to George, (like he did to William).

.... and if I remember rightly, Harry offered to "help" counsel William's children !!! Can you imagine it???

They will just invent material Joseann. They have already been caught out doing that.

Many of Harry's "memories" in Spare were proven to be false. He said he had to take a phone call in the head's office at Eton to tell him the Queen Mother had died. He went into detail - the sun shining through the window, etc.

The Press proved he had been on the ski slopes with Charles and William when Charles received the news!!! Haha!

There have been quite a few more "mis-rememberings".

I don't believe a word from H & M, nor from Scobie.

eazybee

Yes, but the distressing effect of the nasty stories is exactly what they want to hear; the royals' lack of retaliation is not how they act and they can't take it. More plotting, more nasty stories until they run out of material and really go too far.

I thought Harry went too far in Spare saying what a difficult life Charlotte and Louis would have in the future feeling inferior to George, (like he did to William). For all Harry knows William and Catherine might well be including all their children in decisions about the future of the monarchy.
What I'm saying is, will they run out of material, because they can still dish the dirt from afar and relate it back to Harry's tough time in the family?

Yes, but the distressing effect of the nasty stories is exactly what they want to hear; the royals' lack of retaliation is not how they act and they can't take it. More plotting, more nasty stories until they run out of material and really go too far.

Doesn't the Markle sister have a book out soon; can't imagine it will be very flattering to the Sussex pair who will not be Californian dreaming for much longer.

Love it TerriBull maybe you could suggest to Gary that he devotes a chapter to the dog.

I think the royal family should actually breathe a sigh of relief that everything is now out in the open, and there are no more cards to play. Public opinion seems to have turned completely against Meghan, Harry and of course Omid Scobie now. If they don’t have further contact with Meghan there is no ammunition for the future. I think this will all die down, and the media will pursue a discrediting the Sussexes tack now.

Harry's account of landing in the dog bowl made that incident all about him There was another victim that didn't get a mention, the hapless canine. These are some of the imponderables that were thrown up that we may never know the answers to.

Was the bowl damaged or broken for example,?did it contain maybe kibble that was scattered all over the floor?, did it witness the fisty cuffs, did it imagine Harry was being delivered into it's bowl as some sort of a snack? if so, did that affect the dog's mental health? did anyone reach out to the dog in the aftermath? maybe in the form of Tom Bradby being dispatched to whoever's gaff it was to ask in a suitably deferential way "how are you feeling now?"

Oh I think he'll do a lot more than let slip Joseann.

While I agree with eazybee that is probably best for the Royal Family to keep quiet, stiff upper lip , it concerns me how much upset the spewed bile might be causing individuals.
I would be surprised if Uncle Gary in his book tried to intimidate Meghan by criticising her or taking her task, but he might let slip the distressing effect the nasty stories were having on his niece. She is only human after all.
Well, that's how I'd write it anyway.

sazz1

I think we should be a republic. No place for a Royal Family in 2023. They should just be made into ordinary citizens. Why are people bowing and curtseying to them in this day and age? Kate is just the daughter of business people not a goddess. I think racism is integrated into our 'upper classes' and our press. If you look at articles from when Kate was pregnant and when Megan was pregnant you can see the bias. Megan was criticised for touching her bump the way she held her baby etc. Kate was praised for the same things. Sad but true.

Ah, but that's the manipulative press for you, sazz1
They did the same with Diana and Sarah.

Obviously there is a place for a Royal Family in 2023 as they seem to be much in demand.

Do keep up!

It's not unknown but most remain the best of friends.
Although they might disagree at home, they will defend each other if anyone outside the family criticises them!