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Electric cars - to buy or not to buy?

(108 Posts)
Jaxjacky Sun 03-Dec-23 09:04:48

Lithium battery manufacture is the heftiest environmental damage from building an electric car. But over the life cycle of the vehicle the environmental damage from burning oil in a fossil fuel car far outweighs it.

kittylester Sun 03-Dec-23 09:03:34

And electric cars are often heavier than 'ordinary' cars so cause more damage to the roads.

nanna8 Sun 03-Dec-23 08:58:00

I’ve just got a hybrid ,mainly because we really aren’t ready for totally electric cars here yet. Very few places to charge them and vast distances don’t quite match! The fuel economy is great and it seems to run on electricity more often than not. It does about 1,000 kms for a tankful.

TerriBull Sun 03-Dec-23 08:57:53

Not to mention the youngsters in the Democratic Republic of Congo who mine the cobalt detrimentally affecting their health.

sodapop Sun 03-Dec-23 08:52:39

Same here karmalady the lithium battery is a real contra indication for me. Hydrogen is the way to go.

karmalady Sun 03-Dec-23 08:39:43

Lithium battery production bothers me a lot. All those people who got solar panels plus heavy lithium batteries, my neighbour did just that, to `save` the planet. I kept my mouth zipped.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 03-Dec-23 08:26:25

Very much so.

Mollygo Sun 03-Dec-23 08:20:50

We were thinking of getting one, well a hybrid at least, out of respect for the planet. I already feel guilty about the stuff in my mobile phone, that I wouldn’t be without. I knew little about the mining and toxicity of cobalt and but then I read this.
This is a Tesla battery.
To manufacture it you need:
12 tonnes of rock for Lithium
5 tons of Cobalt minerals
3 tons of mineral for nickel
12 tons of copper ore
Move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
12 kg of Lithium
30 pounds of nickels
22 kg of manganese
15 pounds of Cobalt
100 Kg of rams
200 kg of aluminum, steel or and plastic
The Caterpillar 994A used for earthmoving consumes 1000 liters of diesel in 12 hours.
Oh, and then you have to build the car.
Finally you get a “zero emissions” car.

I can’t argue with the damage caused by fossil fuel emissions, but . . . how much would this bother you?