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Is this government damaging your wellbeing?

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CvD66 Sun 31-Dec-23 17:30:55

While never a fan of this government it’s behaviour in 2023 has raised my blood pressure excessively!
Far too many Tories have brought the party and the country into disrepute: Bridgen, Zahawi, Raab, Braverman, Bone, Blunt among many others. It has been OK for cabinet ministers to joke about date rape drugs or for an MP to take 78 days to resign ‘immediately'.
There has been the massive waste of money on attempts to remove refugee or legal defences or challenges that have gone nowhere or policies reversed while in the real world people have struggled with excessively high prices for essentials and use of food banks has increased exponentially.
We’ve been expected to accept nonentities being put in the House of Lords while legislation has restricted people’s voting ability.
Even in the last few days it has been revealed that people have had to pay millions to park at hospitals despite Johnson’s claims that Tories ensured this would be free.
There are so many other issues but why not check out Truth to Power’s brilliant Youtube: ’A calendar of breathtaking corruption, sleaze and cruelty’.
How has the government particularly annoyed you this year?

FannyFanackerpan Sun 31-Dec-23 20:19:37

You think that’s wrong, you presumably think it’s fine. You couldn't be more wrong!

Oreo Sun 31-Dec-23 20:17:43

Understand you being defensive Casdon if you’re Welsh but really y’know it’s well reported that the NHS in Wales is doing poorly.

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 20:17:16

FannyFanackerpan

^The Welsh NHS is not however a failure on car parking^ but it is a failure in providing adequate healthcare to its population of just 3 million people. Since 2010, Welsh performance on waiting times for planned hospital admissions, A&E, and ambulance response times has deteriorated significantly and Welsh targets, compared to English hospitals, have not been met for years. But the Welsh government is able to choose where, and how, to spend its healthcare budget and has chosen free prescriptions and free parking instead of prioritising healthcare. Horses for courses.

I’m not going to enter into a pointless argument about how the Welsh NHS spends its money and any relationship between
Car parking, free prescriptions and healthcare outcomes for patients on waiting lists.
The point I was making is that the government of each country has a choice, and the English Government has chosen to allow hospitals to charge for car parking. I think that’s wrong, you presumably think it’s fine.

FannyFanackerpan Sun 31-Dec-23 20:11:48

The Welsh NHS is not however a failure on car parking but it is a failure in providing adequate healthcare to its population of just 3 million people. Since 2010, Welsh performance on waiting times for planned hospital admissions, A&E, and ambulance response times has deteriorated significantly and Welsh targets, compared to English hospitals, have not been met for years. But the Welsh government is able to choose where, and how, to spend its healthcare budget and has chosen free prescriptions and free parking instead of prioritising healthcare. Horses for courses.

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 20:11:39

Oreo

Plenty of people in Wales are glad to go into England for surgery and procedures and its reported that there are many poor outcomes for people’s health in Wales.

People will go wherever the waiting list is shortest for elective procedures. The border is artificial as far as patient flow is concerned. For many Welsh patients, hospitals in England are much closer to their homes than hospitals in Wales. As a resident of Powys I know the score.

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 20:08:29

Oreo

No

So you are saying that when a patient is treated for condition x in Wales they are more likely to die or have lasting clinical harm than a patient in England? I’ve never seen that reported anywhere.

Oreo Sun 31-Dec-23 20:07:03

Plenty of people in Wales are glad to go into England for surgery and procedures and its reported that there are many poor outcomes for people’s health in Wales.

Oreo Sun 31-Dec-23 20:05:15

No

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 20:04:04

Oreo

Oh well that’s alright then😄 free parking but terrible outcomes for health.

Do you mean outputs?

Oreo Sun 31-Dec-23 20:02:43

Oh well that’s alright then😄 free parking but terrible outcomes for health.

flappergirl Sun 31-Dec-23 20:01:25

I'm with you all the way OP but my political views are the antithesis of the tories and always will be. I am relatively comfortable in that I have my state pension (nothing more) and a council flat and only myself and disabled son to worry about but that doesn't stop me from the disgust I feel for this self serving Government. How many sexual assaults have they been accused of this year alone? Never mind, they might make hunting legal again, so that's all right then.

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 20:00:51

Oreo

Well it sure is allowed in England Casdon and they all do it.
Wales has a very small population and has a devolved right to decide to not charge for hospital car parks and to give people free prescriptions.Maybe tho, it shouldn’t have as the NHS in Wales is often held up as a failure.

I do know that, surprisingly Oreo. The Welsh NHS is not however a failure on car parking, whatever else the government or media likes to accuse it of.

JaneJudge Sun 31-Dec-23 20:00:49

Btw I don’t get paid for my time off and I’m regularly told by people who work for LA/DWP etc to think of taxpayers 🥱

Two hours it takes to get through to ESA sometimes more. They must loads of taxpayers who are advocates for people who are disabled

JaneJudge Sun 31-Dec-23 19:57:08

Yes I have to take regular time off my paid employment because of how my daughters care/benefits you name it as it is so disorganised. Our case will be mentioned in parliament soon I’m sure . Our MP was the only person to get anyone to listen though and he is a Conservative.

Conservatives giving conservative MPs headaches 🤷‍♀️

Oreo Sun 31-Dec-23 19:55:27

Roll on a new government this year.

Oreo Sun 31-Dec-23 19:54:42

Well it sure is allowed in England Casdon and they all do it.
Wales has a very small population and has a devolved right to decide to not charge for hospital car parks and to give people free prescriptions.Maybe tho, it shouldn’t have as the NHS in Wales is often held up as a failure.

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 19:54:02

Siope

It hasn’t affected my lifestyle too much directly. But I despise them for what their policies have done to the poorest and most vulnerable in this country, to my grandchildren’s’ futures, and to civil society. I try to use my anger as a motivating force, rather than let it become personally corrosive, but it gets harder the longer they are in power, as they are doing so much damage in so many ways.

I agree. I’m alright Jack is the motto for many, but I don’t subscribe to that when so many people are homeless, reliant on food banks, or unable to get healthcare treatments they need.

Casdon Sun 31-Dec-23 19:49:58

FannyFanackerpan

I was irritated that my holiday to Cornwall had to be cancelled last May due to the train strikes, but I put the blame for that squarely on the greed of the trade unions, not the government. And I'm disgusted that hospitals have made millions by charging the sick, disabled and vulnerable excessive amounts to use their car parks. However, I'm aware that car parking fees are at the discretion of each hospital Trust, not central government, and that the revenue raised is used to pay for the maintenance and upkeep of the car parks and pay the car parking companies their management fees. Still outrageous but it's not the government setting the fee rates.

I don’t agree on the NHS carpark charging. It’s not allowed by the Welsh Government, there have been no new private contracts since 2008.
www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2019-06/car-parking-management-guidance-for-nhs-wales.pdf

Siope Sun 31-Dec-23 19:42:55

It hasn’t affected my lifestyle too much directly. But I despise them for what their policies have done to the poorest and most vulnerable in this country, to my grandchildren’s’ futures, and to civil society. I try to use my anger as a motivating force, rather than let it become personally corrosive, but it gets harder the longer they are in power, as they are doing so much damage in so many ways.

FannyFanackerpan Sun 31-Dec-23 19:29:45

I was irritated that my holiday to Cornwall had to be cancelled last May due to the train strikes, but I put the blame for that squarely on the greed of the trade unions, not the government. And I'm disgusted that hospitals have made millions by charging the sick, disabled and vulnerable excessive amounts to use their car parks. However, I'm aware that car parking fees are at the discretion of each hospital Trust, not central government, and that the revenue raised is used to pay for the maintenance and upkeep of the car parks and pay the car parking companies their management fees. Still outrageous but it's not the government setting the fee rates.

kittylester Sun 31-Dec-23 19:20:44

No!

Lovetopaint037 Sun 31-Dec-23 19:18:32

Well CvD66 I recognise so much in what you say. However, I think that perhaps you should have asked if we are frustrated or annoyed at the general incompetence and sleaze which is apparent in so many aspects of this long term government. If you ask me the answer is definitely “yes”.

MaizieD Sun 31-Dec-23 19:04:48

I think you have asked the wrong question, CvD66.

Unless posters have been directly affected by difficulties in the NHS, or the cost of living straining already very tight budgets, travelling difficulties caused by strikes, or any one of the 'inconveniences' caused by cuts to public services, then I think the answer will be that they're absolutely fine, thank you very much...

Wheniwasyourage Sun 31-Dec-23 19:04:22

Well, that's fine for those who approve of this government, but I find myself permanently fed up to the back teeth by the incompetence, sleaze and general air of not giving a toss about anyone else shown by some members of this appalling government. While I realise that the governments of some other countries are worse, as they are, for example, dictatorships, we have not previously expected this sort of rubbish in this country.

Lyndylou Sun 31-Dec-23 18:56:47

No not at all. My wellbeing is fine thank you.