Oscar pistorious being released on parole

I'm with Bridie22 didn't believe a word he said. He wakes up middle of night hears intruder!! in bathroom. Come off it your girlfriend isn't beside you (she's in the bathroom with her phone hiding behind the door) trying to phone for help. He should rot in hell.

I believe it was culpable homicide. I say this because I know his past history and background. Political pressure to increase the charge. SA is a complicated country. Not one I'd ever want to live in.

NotSpaghetti

It went to appeal.
The Supreme Court of Appeal overturned the culpable homicide verdict and found Pistorius guilty of murder.
They said he must have known that whoever was behind the door would be killed.

I think if it's been to appeal it has been thoroughly examined by now.

Absolutely. Anger issues, possession of a firearm and preparedness to shoot knowing that the target will almost certainly be killed. If he can do it once he can do it again.

I read your post Aveline, Murder is murder where ever you live, did you read his past history?

Its a very sad case, one life lost and the other ruined.
Its good they're letting him out now.

Yes I read it. I know that it is almost impossible for some people to believe the banality of violent men. I dont hate him, I try not to give him much thought.

Did you read my post? The situation there is completely different from life here. It's hard to convey the background level of just plain fear that privileged white people live under. Pistorious was privileged (apart from having no legs of course) so will be a hate figure for those who jump to ill informed conclusions based on UK experience.

The point is, would he be a danger to anyone else once released?

From what I read about him and his behaviour during the case I think he would be, as he seems arrogant, unable to control his temper and has access to firearms. Plus expensive lawyers.

I have no sympathy for the man. A previous girlfriend (and some of his girlfriend's WhatsApps testify to his anger.
He had previously fired guns in anger.

He had a trial - where basically the result was a "manslaughter" type verdict and then an appeal by the prosecution led to a unanimous decision by five judges that it was murder.

I think in such a high profile case they would ne super-careful.

I'm with Iam and others.
Someone didn't pluck this verdict from thin air!

It is South Africa,

It's not SA. It's a woman being killed by her partner. Its common all over the world. He isnt unusual.

Bridie you try living in the atmosphere of SA.

Poor boy!!!
He is a man!! Pity his girlfriend can't live her life.

SA is a scary place to live. People live in a heightened state of fear even in their own homes. Especially in their own homes. My SiL is from SA and DD was shocked when she visited at the bars on the windows and doors effectively turning their bedroom into a cell. Family and friends have told us horror stories. Sadly,criminals have little to lose and can be desperately dangerous.
However, one aspect of the Pistorious case that was never considered was his use of steroids. 'Roid rage' is well known to lead to rapid mood change and activity. Pistorious was known to be taking them. The environment he was in, his level of disability plus these nasty substances easily account for his precipitate behaviour on that awful night.
Poor boy. Let him out. His life as he knew it has gone.

I watched his trial and found it very interesting. But I’m unsure if I believed him or not. Having said that South Africa must have been a place where people lived on the edge from looters and murderers so his story could be quite probable.

No one’s really going to know the truth of the matter.
He’ll have had it pretty rough in prison, guilty or not.

Galaxy 👍🏻🙏🏽. A woman dies every week at the hands of her partner/husband/lover/ex

A woman is dead and the man who killed her will get to live his life. It's a story as old as time.
I include his 'explanation' along with all the others;
She asked me to choke her
She attacked me first
She asked me to kill her.
They all have an explanation, the women are not able to put their side of the story.

a distant relative moved to live in s africa. He had been a member of the SAS and was highly skilled in self-defence and worse. He always said that he had a collection of guns and they were spread around his home so he could get to them. Unless one is highly trained to be calm and objective, then the instinct is to use that gun when adrenaline causes that fear response. That could have well been the reponse in the pistorious case, bearing in mind that the man could not easily have escaped

We don`t know the truth and we have no need to know

The Court heard the evidence. The Judge understands the crime rate in SA. He was found guilty. I’m inclined to share BlueBelle’s views. I don’t share the view there’s room for diubt

I think he killed her in his temper, and deserves to rot in prison, I didn't believe a word he said in court.

I do agree with your views on guns BlueBelle

I totally understand about the crime rate in SA Sparklefizz although your story is not dissimilar to my aunt who at 90 was burgled while she slept upstairs (in an area of my town not SA)My Nan one evening went upstairs to her bedroom and found a man asleep on her bed (years ago so no phones etc)
The difference is few people carry guns here
Guns don’t defend they just cause more deaths in my opinion
The reason USA and SA are not safe countries
However we digress if a gun wasn’t his first port of call for either an intruder or an anger moment the girl may well be still alive and he may not be in the pickle he’s been in
I have read where he had used guns before in (daft friend) situations …cocky

Have you ever lived in South Africa BlueBelle? They have a terrifying crime rate. My mother in law lived in a second floor apartment. One night she woke up to a man beside her bed going through her dressingtable drawer. She shouted at him (very bravely) and he ran.

My brother in law, in his 70s, was in his kitchen having a cuppa when a group of men broke in and tied him up before taking his computer and other goods.

This is why many people have guns. I'm not condoning it at all - obviously - but I do have understanding about that fear, especially if you have no legs!

I don’t for a second believe the intruder story I think that was a complete whitewash I also don’t necessarily think he intended to kill her I think he had the so called red mist and was so incensed that she wasn’t doing as he expected that he didn’t think at all, and did what came natural to him and picked up the gun he probably didn’t even think ahead just released his anger

But a beautiful girl lost her young life at his hands whether intentional or not so I think he had to serve a sentence

I don’t for a minute think it was premeditated but he had a history with guns and a history of immediate anger and a history of entitlement No I don’t think he meant to kill her but I think he meant to terrify her.

I think he needs to be totally out of the public eye and lead a more giving life with less attention in the future
Was the sentence long enough? I don’t know I m sure her parents would think not

Would not have happened if everyone didn’t have a gun under their metaphorical pillow

It went to appeal.
The Supreme Court of Appeal overturned the culpable homicide verdict and found Pistorius guilty of murder.
They said he must have known that whoever was behind the door would be killed.

I think if it's been to appeal it has been thoroughly examined by now.